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Offline The War Wagon

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Magnum CAI
« on: October 12, 2013, 01:29:45 am »
Since there aren't but two years worth of Magnum RC's out there, it's something of a specialized question, BUT...

Anybody tried one of these (or another mfg's clone) on their RC?  http://www.carid.com/2000-dodge-durango-air-intakes/aem-brute-force-air-intake-system-252837.html
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2013, 09:41:54 pm »
I couldn't tell you about fitment BUT as far as filtration goes, they are more for the street instead of off-road.  They flow better for 2 reasons.

1) Smooth route to the fuel injection and
2) The filter is more pourous and therefore allows fine particles to find their way through. 

The 2nd reason is why I would stay away UNLESS it is only for the street.  There were a couple of write-ups on these type of filters on RCC.  There was even some data comparing the filtering capabilities of various brands.  It's a trade off at best.
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2013, 12:14:21 pm »
I recall that thread.  I also know, that with my fenderwell skits GONE now, it'll aspirate a LOT of water, even from the street!  :o  It'll need a Banks or Volant type box to shield it from such un-pleasantries - perhaps even a snorkel!

I'd also avoid the DRY paper type, for an OILED filter, like I run with the AFE cAi in my Commander.  But I need HORSES, to move this beast - especially until I can go with a new cam & lifters;



Figuring out HOW to make it work, will be well worth another 8 - 15 horses, in my estimation
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2013, 01:56:30 pm »
Could just add a few stickers - I hear they are worth about 5 HP each.   :laughing7:

Good luck with it.  I had put a similar type setup on an Explorer and Ranger and they did rev a lot better and sound much better also.  If I remember correctly, I thought I saw a similar type setup on rjtx667 (Ryan"s) 408 setup on the Mexico RC. 
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 08:01:08 am »
Could just add a few stickers - I hear they are worth about 5 HP each.   :laughing7:

Oh good!  I already have about 10 of those on it - I should be pushing 300 horses now, just as she sits!  :tongue3:

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Good luck with it.  I had put a similar type setup on an Explorer and Ranger and they did rev a lot better and sound much better also.  If I remember correctly, I thought I saw a similar type setup on rjtx667 (Ryan"s) 408 setup on the Mexico RC.

Looking at the Volant CAI in particular - because they offer a LOTTA different box types - I notice a most of them have an air pipe that shoots down the first base line, whereas with the RC, we obviously wanna duct it down the third base line, since there's more room under our hoods on that side.  They make a pipe that should mate up accordingly (I'm gonna hafta mash something like the Volant box, to my preferred AEM Brute Force Intake...  :icon_scratch: ), but now I gotta dig around high up on the core support on that side, to see where to plug it in to a hole for some fresh air!
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 09:48:32 pm »
Can't wait to see how it turns out.
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 05:41:56 am »
On a recent Trucks(?) episode they showed a universal kit that had all sorts of bends.They were putting a CAI in their Fodge.
 You just cut out the pieces you needed. Sorry, I don't recall the mfgr

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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 02:48:06 pm »
i would not waste my money on one of those kits. you won't gain anything from running one other than maybe a air sucking sound and a more expensive air filter if you ever have to replace it. stock setup is about as good as any CAI. look where the stock setup gets its air from. it gets it from behind the bumper which would be a lot colder than any air the CAI would draw from under the hood especially with all the heat that the v8 puts off. i know i had to move my outside temp sensor to pretty much beside the stock air intake just because it seemed to be effected by engine temp in the couple other places i tried.

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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 09:34:16 pm »
I agree that they are expensive for the simplicity of parts.  Be nice to build your own if you could save a bundle of cash.
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Re: Magnum CAI
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2013, 05:06:16 pm »
Very interesting Mat but errrr.... what's a kilowatt???   :laughing7:

On both vehicles that I've used them on, the WOT sound is definately better and the seat of the pants feel was there.  Was it a large increase in power - probably not.  My biggest gripe on these are the cost.  Way too much for what you get material wise and now with your informational video, way too much for no return of power.  I do wonder if a normally aspirated vehicle especially with a restrictive intake tubing would benefit somewhat.  Did those guys do a test with a "normal" non-HP vehicle that you know of?
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2013, 05:42:47 pm »
lol

i think the sound can sometimes just make you floor it more often which gives you the seat of your pants feel. at $300 i could go without it or build my own custom setup. i personally think a stock setup would would better. i think the flex able tubing might help the air flow better. funny enough i forgot that they did and they seemed to loose power with CAI on a normal car.
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2013, 06:08:43 pm »
I'd say that just about nips it in the POD.  Good call Mat!   :thumbsup:
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2013, 09:03:33 am »
Can't stand the music track with the limeys - were they testing ricers and British junk, or did they actually test a Dodge Magnum engine?  I'll FF to that part if they did.

Mine still has the HOT-air tube from the header... ... to the air cleaner, so at a MINIMUM, that's GOT to be re-ducted.  I also don't mind going the snorkel route - especially with NO fender inner-liners anymore - so if I'm snorkelin' it, I might as well cAi it, is MY thought.
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Re: Magnum CAI
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2013, 05:13:52 pm »
Can't stand the music track with the limeys - were they testing ricers and British junk, or did they actually test a Dodge Magnum engine?  I'll FF to that part if they did.

 :laughing7:  I did like how they called the Daewoo a turd.  I had to force myself to look at the horsepower figures instead of listening to the kilowatt numbers they were spouting.  I guess the main theme that I got from these videos was that in fact the engineers that designed these vehicles did do their homework.  It was a shock to say the least.  I was looking at the mid-range curve on the dyno figures.  To me, that is where my set ups seemed to improve but I didn't notice that on their power curves.  They did mention the sound was better and that is a truth for sure.  I do remember that if I over oiled the filter it would seep and sometimes coat the IAT sensor just downstream and I would have to clean it.
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