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Title: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 06, 2014, 11:21:30 PM
Ha ha... I know its different but you'll see why in a moment. 

Well before you say it, What another 2WD??
Call me crazy but it was cool and a good deal at $600.  I figure on a daily driver or flip.

Its not home yet but let me tell you about Carter.  Literally bought off a Lil ole lady (72 years old). It was her husbands truck and he passed away. He was the original owner and it had 80k on the odometer. Interior is in pretty good shape with a small tear in drivers seat and headliner sagging. It will need some good cleaning though since it had insulation stored inside. Itchy stuff. There are running boards and good tires but ugly rims. There is a tow hitch in back and up front more goodies. Fairly new aftermarket radiator, flex fan, dual electric fans and a tranny cooler. Check out the motor. Aha.. There's Carter, Carter AFB!!  Hmmm...nice Mopar Performance valve covers. Looks like an aluminum intake also. There is dual exhaust too.  Sure would be nice if it was a 360.  Even a built 318 would be nice. I couldn't climb under comfortably since it was in the middle of a briar patch. Stickers for any dumb sunsabitches. Tall weeds, chiggers and snakes oh my.  Unfortunately no keys so door locks and ignition cylinder will need to be changed. Supposedly it was parked for a bad freeze plug. Hatch needs struts too.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 06, 2014, 11:32:27 PM
cool. i wish i could find deals like that up here. my 81 cost me $500 but i had to put another $1000 into it plus a crap load of labor to get it on the road.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on June 07, 2014, 09:03:20 AM
I like it  :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 07, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
QuoteWelcome back Carter




Is that the Boston/New England pronunciation?  So it sounds like, "Welcome Back, Kotter?"  (http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-whistle-2.gif)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 07, 2014, 07:26:40 PM
Only if you call the carb Kotter AFB.  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: workgoats on June 08, 2014, 08:25:17 AM
I had a backup light like that once.  Somewhere there's a bumper with a bent hole where I drove it into the ground.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2014, 09:48:21 AM
It just has that old school cool factor that I can't put my finger on for any one thing.  She told me that her husband was a mechanic.  Hoping for some stealth items.  The weeds were pretty tall and she warned me about rattlesnakes. One apparently killed her dog. I  was able to see dual exhaust with what reminded me of those old school Thrush tin can mufflers with separate pipes all the way.  The build options sticker showed 318 2v 8.25 axle with 3.23 gears but who knows for sure. Definitely set up for towing so hopefully he changed a few things.  Rear axle swap with some lower gears would be easy enough. Going for simple and clean. I've got a tow set up for Monday and off on Tues. Fun fun fun...

Here's a couple of pics the grandson sent me.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 08, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
just hook a chain to the sway bar and drag it to somewhere safer to work on it or bring your lawn mower and cut yourself a path.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 08, 2014, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: SixGun on June 08, 2014, 09:48:21 AM
It just has that old school cool factor that I can't put my finger on for any one thing.  She told me that her husband was a mechanic.  Hoping for some stealth items.  The weeds were pretty tall and she warned me about rattlesnakes. One apparently killed her dog. I  was able to see dual exhaust with what reminded me of those old school Thrush tin can mufflers with separate pipes all the way.  The build options sticker showed 318 2v 8.25 axle with 3.23 gears but who knows for sure. Definitely set up for towing so hopefully he changed a few things.  Rear axle swap with some lower gears would be easy enough. Going for simple and clean. I've got a tow set up for Monday and off on Tues. Fun fun fun...

Here's a couple of pics the grandson sent me.


4.56's and no lift will go well, but if I had to do it again, I'd of gone 4.88's on mine!  At least with a Dana 44 front.


Get something with a bumper like mine; get up behind it and PUSH it to pavement!
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
When i went to go look at it, I took my little Matrix and we walked down into the field.  It was hot as heck and a pretty good drive at rush hour. I was thinking of taking my RAM this time and hooking up a strap and pulling it to safe ground near the International.  Mainly for the tow truck to hook up the back end. That way he can back  it in nose first in my driveway. It is down on a little flat area backed up against a ravine and its a pretty good drop. Not to mention that it poured rain today. Probably muddy as hell. 

Hmmm......mud you say.  :tongue3:

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on June 08, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
I see you found some motivation!!

I guess Noah and I won't be seeing you Tuesday! 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 08, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
sounds like a good chance to test out your winch  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2014, 09:33:10 PM
Quote from: ProjectM880 on June 08, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
I see you found some motivation!!

I guess Noah and I won't be seeing you Tuesday!

I was really looking forward to meeting up with you guys. Yolanda told me to go. That truck will still be there when you get back.  We'll see but it will be hard to ignore the new toy in the driveway. To tow it doesn't the tranny need to be in neutral? No keys remember.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on June 08, 2014, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: SixGun on June 08, 2014, 09:33:10 PM
I was really looking forward to meeting up with you guys. Yolanda told me to go. That truck will still be there when you get back.  We'll see but it will be hard to ignore the new toy in the driveway. To tow it doesn't the tranny need to be in neutral? No keys remember.

Just pull the rear drive shaft so you can tow it. Or Break the steering column so you can shift it into Neutral  :dance:

Well feel free to come up to Noah's shop if you want, But I completely understand wanting to play with the new toy!!  :steeringwheel:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 08, 2014, 09:55:33 PM
i figure the tow truck could lift up the rear axle. if all else does fail there is 2 bolts that hold the shifter linkage bracket to the frame. if you loosen it and remove the c clip you should be able to manually put the transmission in neutral.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2014, 10:10:20 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on June 08, 2014, 09:55:33 PM
i figure the tow truck could lift up the rear axle. if all else does fail there is 2 bolts that hold the shifter linkage bracket to the frame. if you loosen it and remove the c clip you should be able to manually put the transmission in neutral.
I was thinking of loosening the adjustment block bolt and manually putting it in neutral. As for the tow truck, I guess it will depend if it has the hoist or ramp.

Quote from: crazzywolfie on June 08, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
sounds like a good chance to test out your winch  :thumbsup:

Actually bought the Viper winch for the 76 RC.  I picked up a universal winch plate. Has the 4x10 bolt pattern. I want to do something different so I still have to fab that one in. :violent1:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 08, 2014, 10:25:37 PM
i just figure dragging a RC that is stuck in park would be a good test for the winch that is already on your truck
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2014, 10:46:42 PM
Ahhhh....gotcha :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 10, 2014, 02:24:52 PM
Knock knock.  Who's there?  Carter.  :035:

Welcome home Carter... Whew, you need a bath.

You're a day late and I'm a dollar short. Good news is that after getting towed home, I found the ignition key.  Its like an easter egg hunt.  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 10, 2014, 02:47:50 PM
While I do miss the ram's head hood ornament, I'm glad I DON'T have all the aluminum trim on my '92, that the older RC's had.  It's gotta be a be-otch to find NOWADAYS, and then to keep from getting it all dinged up off-road!!!  :confused2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 10, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Few pics.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 11, 2014, 05:33:06 AM
Just a couple of updates. I cleaned up the inside pretty good. Its azing what can get in a small gap in the window. Primarily lizard turds, leaves and cracked acorn nuts.  Hmmmm... Behind the rear seat was a squirrels nest literally.  One of the rear struts for the hatch had been disconnected and it jammed the hatch open a tad. Let's just say the rear carpet behind the back seat is out.  Someone had removed the radio and fortunately I found all the screws and the dash face was in pretty good shape.

Well the motor is definately a 318 but I expected it to be. Just hopeful for a 360.  Mud dauber nests all around the engine bay.  It is really hard to get under a vehicle without running boards. The mufflers are stamped as "Stanley". Never heard of those. When I bought the truck a radiator had been given to me. Really good shape cross flow but nope it not gonna work for me.  Looked up the numbers and its for a 305 chebby.  Fortunately I had sense enough to pick up the one from the guy at Lago Vista in good shape. I was looking at the pusher fans in front of the radiator and it would seem to that they are blocking airflow. 

Yolanda finally came out and looked inside for the first time.  Her reaction was , "Ohhh baby, I likey." Then she asked, "We aren't gonna off-road this one, are we?"  "This is nice."

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 11, 2014, 06:54:52 AM
Well I got a hit on the Stanley mufflers.  Tractor mufflers.  - lol.  Can't wait to hear how they sound. Have a feeling that new mufflers are in the near future.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 11, 2014, 10:51:05 AM
i can't blame Yolanda for not wanting to off road it. my sister loves my ramcharger and it is only 2wd. the only thing that suck is my ramcharger has some major rust issues that are worse than my sister realizes.

you definitely need to post some pictures after you get it all cleaned up

a tractor muffler might make it sound more interesting.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 11, 2014, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on June 11, 2014, 10:51:05 AM
i can't blame Yolanda for not wanting to off road it. my sister loves my ramcharger and it is only 2wd. the only thing that suck is my ramcharger has some major rust issues that are worse than my sister realizes.

you definitely need to post some pictures after you get it all cleaned up

a tractor muffler might make it sound more interesting.

I hope it sounds good. If not, looks like some mufflers in the near future or some used ones hah.  One 6x9 was pillaged so I'll need to rummage through my junk for a replacement.  Needed a good vacuum. Looked like a yellow cat shed all over. Can't complain though, it protected most areas from garaminals. Lol
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 11, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
i don't see how there would be much difference between a tractor muffler and normal muffler.

what used vehicle couldn't use a good vacuuming especially at the price you paid for it. maybe since Yolanda like the ramcharger so much she might be willing to clean it out for you  :13:. 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 11, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Good one.. I wish.  :laughing4:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 11, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
it can't hurt to try especially if she likes it
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 11, 2014, 03:15:16 PM
I'm gonna Ziebart my interior, once the driveshaft is done.  I want 22 years of crud sucked up & steam-cleaned, before I start crawling around on it, installing the stereo, cb, and scanner!   :tard:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 11, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
a good shop vac and some spray bottles could get the interior fairly clean. i got a Bissell Little Green Portable Cleaner and it works pretty good and it allows you to see the dirt that is sucked out of your seats
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Bissell-Little-Green-Portable-Deep-Cleaner-14007/9863572
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 11, 2014, 03:48:54 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on June 11, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
a good shop vac and some spray bottles could get the interior fairly clean. i got a Bissell Little Green Portable Cleaner and it works pretty good and it allows you to see the dirt that is sucked out of your seats
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Bissell-Little-Green-Portable-Deep-Cleaner-14007/9863572 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Bissell-Little-Green-Portable-Deep-Cleaner-14007/9863572)


My wife had one of those - don't know if she still does or not.  :icon_scratch:   Doing that WHOLE interior though, with a little green machine, is more work than I care to tackle; that's one job I'll GLADLY pay someone to do!


I got fed up with the crud in my Jeep this winter (LOTTA snow, salt, and snow melt tracked in it - dog barf in the back  ::)  - kids had dirt & water spots all over the back seats (beggers can't be choosers when you buy used, but I wish my Jeep had leather seats  :-\ ) - and I didn't want to wait 'til spring to let it get ruined, so I took it to Ziebart (first time ever using their services), and ordered Weathertech floormats.  It was money well spent on the Jeep (they did a good job!), and to do the interior of the Ramcharger will actually be a bit cheaper (3 door vs. a 5 door!), even if it is physically bigger, so I can't beat that.


I'd like to put some modern neoprene covers on the seats once they're cleaned, too, as they'll be more stain/dirt resistant that the factory cloth.  Want the seats cleaned before I do that, though.




p.s. - wife just walked in - said the little green machine didn't work worth a damn!  :o
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 11, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
sometime it is nice to pay someone else to clean the mess but i don't mind doing a bit of work. i think your wife must not have been using it right because i swear mine works great. this is what the water out of the back seat looked like on my ramcharger.
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/s960x960/464627_10151668976156672_1902676337_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 11, 2014, 06:32:38 PM
I've got an old Hoover steam vac with an uphostery attachment..  Been using it for years.  Its amazing what it picks up.  Its on the to do list.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 12, 2014, 11:07:03 AM
I've been scrubbing the rims with Super Clean and even scrubbed with a scotch brute.  Will Sandblasting with some light or medium grit ruin them?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 12, 2014, 11:25:44 AM
i don't know if i would sand blast them with sand. maybe something like crushed walnuts might work but is kind of on the more expensive side of blasting material.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 12, 2014, 11:39:05 AM
I may have found the bad freeze plug. The center expansion plug on the drivers side  looks like it is significantly pushed out of the bore.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 12, 2014, 11:52:55 AM
making progress :great:. so do you thing you should tackle the rest while your under there or just the one? makes you wonder why just the 1 popped?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 12, 2014, 04:09:55 PM
Maybe it actually froze.  I've never seen one pop out. Seen rusted ones quite a few times.  If I'm not mistaken it is between the block and crossmember so it will have to be pulled.  I was hoping to get it started and see how it ran.   There's some seepage under the timing cover so might as well do the timing chain.  Gasket overhaul and clean then paint. That's how theses projects start more times than not. One thing will lead to another.  Lol. Oh and with the motor out then clean and paint the engine bay. Oh oh...look out. 

I did order a Rancho add-a-leaf, the long ones this time. I also ordered some coil spring spacers (2") from Performance Accessories. I want to find some good gas charged shocks that won't break the bank. I was looking at Monroe but they didn't seem to have any for 2" lift. Any suggestions anyone?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 12, 2014, 04:11:19 PM
Quote from: SixGun on June 12, 2014, 11:07:03 AM
I've been scrubbing the rims with Super Clean and even scrubbed with a scotch brute.  Will Sandblasting with some light or medium grit ruin them?


BEAD blast 'em.  8)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 12, 2014, 04:30:32 PM
you could still see about firing it up. you might just want to putt the battery on charge and take the belt of the water pump. as long as you don't run it for too long you should be fine and not do any damage
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 13, 2014, 03:32:30 PM
Any idea what this thing is?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 13, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
If it was bigger than 1" x 1", I might...  :confused2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 13, 2014, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: The War Wagon on June 13, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
If it was bigger than 1" x 1", I might...  :confused2:




OK - that helped.


Electric brake assist for a small trailer?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 13, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
Hmmm...that's a thought.  I was thinking it was for the electric fans.  So what would the minimum/maximum be for either of those? I always thought electric fans were on or off.  Trailer brakes min/max, I dunno.

Think I'll just remove it and see if there's more writing or brand name on the back. I tried taking a pic of the back but it didn't help.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 13, 2014, 04:52:23 PM
Here it is. Sears brake controller model 2100. Still don't know what it does but I know what it is.  :035:

http://m.sears.com/index-g.html#/jordan-research-corporation-jordan-2100-actuator-electronic-trailer/p-SPM8992506113
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 13, 2014, 05:06:41 PM
http://www.frontiernet.net/~arbill/bigfoot/bf_jordan.html

And now its all explained to me. Isn't that special.  :read2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 13, 2014, 07:41:35 PM
Hey - I get cookie!  ;D




http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OXA338ro1mo
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 13, 2014, 09:06:06 PM
it is a brake controller for  trailer with electric brakes.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 13, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
I have sought and been given advice from at least 5 persons on starting this engine.  The last time it was inspected was 2010, so its been sitting about 4 years. The advice given is pretty much summed up on aother forum discussion below in case anyone needs this same advice.  Thanks to all who have answered my texts, sent me pm's and responded on this thread. You guys are great. :notworthy:

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  #5 
10-14-2007 11:49 PM by C-700
There is a lot you can do. But it is always a good idea to make sure you have a sound engine before spending any unnessary money. If the engine has a problem you do not want to find you have wasted any mony on it. First, the engine is about as dry as it can get (has no oil on anything in any quantity that can do much lubrication. DO NOT TURN THE ENGINE OVER EVEN BY HAND UNTILL LATER. That being said, if it has oil and it is not the consistancy of mud, don't change it. You do not need water in it to fire it off and let it run for a few seconds so don't worry about the cooling system. disconect the fuel supply to the fuel pump to keep any bad gas out of the engine. You can start it by using starter fluid or a little gas poured down the carburetor bores. You do not need fanbelts on the engine to start it but if they are there then leave them. Pull the spark plugs out and take a squirt can of engine oil and put several squirts in each spark plug hole. Don't worry if you think you put to much in, you will take care of that later. Let that sit for about a week. Then after the week mark and pull the distributor out and hand crank the oil pump thru the distributor hole. If the oil pump works you will feel quite a bit of resistance to turning this by hand. Keep turning the pump for a few minutes to get oil through the oiling system. You can now pull a valve cover and see if you had wet oil at the rocker arms. If you did then put the valve cover back on, you do not need to replace the gasket at this time because the little it might leak won't matter for the short time you are going to run it. Put the distributor back in and set it where it was, tighten it down. Hook up the battery, try to turn the engine over with the plugs still out. Spin the engine over using the starter for about 30 seconds that will spread the oil on the rings and throw off any extra. Put the plugs back in unless they look really bad inwhich case you need to replace them now. Spray starter fluid down the carb and try to start it. It should try to start almost right away. If it runs a little with no bad noise then you probably have a good chance the engine is sound. Then the fun begins, spending $. If at any point something does not work like starter or battery you will need to fix what ever it takes to get to the point where it will start. Even the carb does not need to work up to this point. The distibutor and ignition system just needs to be working and set close enough to let it start. A lot more will need to be done before you could drive it but you will have a good idea about the engine before you have spent much money on it.
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  #6 
10-17-2007 11:23 PM by 64fordf100292
i agree with c-700. but i would use marvel mystry oil or even tranny fluid in the cylinders. i would change out the oil though. dont wanna be pumping sludge into the motor after its long slumber.(more tha likely, that oil will be in sludge form) Now, this is my personal preference, I would use gas and stay away from starter fluid. dont like the stuff. to volital for my liking. plus, from what i am told, it burns real dry, and my thinking is, not good for first time starting up a motor. but like i said its my opinion.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 13, 2014, 09:53:22 PM
that just sounds like way too much fun.

good luck
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 13, 2014, 10:24:50 PM
i never went through most of that stuff when i got my 81. all i did was check oil level and color. if it looks ok i would possibly put a bit in each cylinder and then try firing her up. i really don't see how removing the distributor will allow you to prime the oil system. i could possibly see that working on a chevy or ford that have the oil pump gear attached to the distributor but on a dodge i see it as pointless.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 14, 2014, 08:53:09 AM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on June 13, 2014, 10:24:50 PM
i never went through most of that stuff when i got my 81. all i did was check oil level and color. if it looks ok i would possibly put a bit in each cylinder and then try firing her up. i really don't see how removing the distributor will allow you to prime the oil system. i could possibly see that working on a chevy or ford that have the oil pump gear attached to the distributor but on a dodge i see it as pointless.

The distributor shaft drives the oil pump.  Spinning it will fill oil galleries and you should be able to see oil at the rocker arms. Just part of checking condition before spending the money. Marvel mystery oil kinda surprised me. The label shows it as cleaning and breaking down old oil deposits.  Can be used in fuel also. It made no mention of lubrication per say. I would have thought Lucas would be a good candidate and liked the fact that it comes with a nozzle already. ATF has been used for years for its lubrication and preservative properties.  I've seen the burn off of ATF before and was hoping to minimize that by using an oil based product.

Some of that stuff is probably on the side of overkill but with the expense of rebuilding, it is worth the time spent. Determining condition of the motor before tearing it down is a smart investment imo.  The PO was adamant that a bad freeze plug was the issue it stopped being a DD. I can see that pulling the motor to change a measly freeze plug at his age and obviously failing health kept it from being a driver. Good thing for me since the grandson would have kept it for himself.

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 14, 2014, 10:48:21 AM
the distributor shaft don't drive the oil pump. the Oil Pump Intermediate Shaft pumps the oil pump and that is driven by the cam. the distributor sit on top and just goes for the ride as far as i know. maybe i am missing something but that is how i see it. dodge engines are different from chevy and ford engines which do use the distributor to pump the oil pump. you have any 2 stroke oil? it is ment to be burnt so it might work great to lubricate the cylinders and should hopefully not smoke too much.

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 14, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
You are both right. The cam does drive both the oil pump and dizzy.

To prime the oil system,  you remove the dizzy and remove the intermediate shaft. From there you buy the special primer shaft and attach it to a drill.

You insert the tool/ shaft into where the dizzy goes and into the oil pump and prime away.

I had to do this on the 408 for the ramcharger to make sure it was oiled up good before the first starting.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 14, 2014, 01:54:30 PM
Sorry Mat, proper terminology check.  :icon_scratch:

Here is a pic of the tool (shaft?)to turn the oil pump.

Gotta unload. Just picked up some stuff from the PO.
Awesome news is that I found the key for wheel covers.  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 14, 2014, 02:18:57 PM
Lets see, what does $120 get you these days. 

2 ton engine hoist,  workmate,  four 3 ton jack stands, hi lift jack, a chock block, carb adapter, throttle springs, valve cover grommets, pcv valve, jack handles, flat tire tool, spray paint handle, and a dog house for when I get in trouble for bringing too much shit home.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 14, 2014, 08:15:45 PM
Quote from: SixGun on June 14, 2014, 01:54:30 PM
Sorry Mat, proper terminology check.  :icon_scratch:

Here is a pic of the tool (shaft?)to turn the oil pump.

Gotta unload. Just picked up some stuff from the PO.
Awesome news is that I found the key for wheel covers.  :13:
i figure there is a proper tool for the job. i just thought to pull that gear out would be more work than it is worth. i would possibly pull the valve covers pull all the spark plugs and put some oil in all the cylinders and let the starter do the priming . i fired up my 81 with checking anything other than oil level. it made some funny noise for a few seconds like it had been a while since it ran but it eventually ran fine other than the tons of smoke.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 20, 2014, 07:28:28 PM
I put a new set of door locks on yesterday but one of the locks still doesn't work.  Seems jammed. I'll have to remove it from the door and see if anything stands out.

I had done some searching for the rear hatch lock.  Apparently you can take the lock in to a locksmith and they can make a replacement using the code on it. So that's what I did. Its an AMC key and he charged me $16.50 to make 2 keys.  Pretty cool  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on June 21, 2014, 07:47:34 AM
so does it run yet?!!  :steeringwheel:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 21, 2014, 08:10:53 AM
Quote from: ProjectPW on June 21, 2014, 07:47:34 AM
so does it run yet?!!  :steeringwheel:


Shoot - he only JUST got the door opened!  :tongue3:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 21, 2014, 10:47:01 AM
Actually just fixed the 2 ton hoist I picked up. I have been using a 1 ton with a short boom that barely clears the radiator support.  This one has a 7 ft boom and had been towed behind the tractor and destroyed the rubber wheels. I had to put in some jack oil also. I also replaced some missing bolts and got it to fold up for storage.

Lastly, i  had to make some room in the garage to work. Hope to get started today on the motor.

On a side note, all the parts have come in to do the suspension. Front 2" coil spring spacers and Gabriel max control monotube gas shocks.For the rear, Rancho long add-a-leaf, new ubolts, and Gabriel fleet truck shocks for the rear. I want to fix the Dodge lean while I'm at it. Anyone done this? I was thinking of cutting an extra overload spring down to a zero rate. Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 21, 2014, 07:57:05 PM
Edelbrock Performer intake
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 21, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
Quote from: SixGun on June 21, 2014, 10:47:01 AM
On a side note, all the parts have come in to do the suspension. Front 2" coil spring spacers and Gabriel max control monotube gas shocks.For the rear, Rancho long add-a-leaf, new ubolts, and Gabriel fleet truck shocks for the rear. I want to fix the Dodge lean while I'm at it. Anyone done this? I was thinking of cutting an extra overload spring down to a zero rate. Any thoughts on this?
does the truck lean? if it is not leaning currently i would just leave it. the coils in my 81 are worn in enough that the front end sits pretty level. ramchargers are not as prone to leaning since there gas tanks are between the frame rails behind the axle.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 21, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
The lean is more pronounced on the D150. From what they are saying on RCC it is because of the front springs/ coils. Hard to believe. As you know, the front coils are new on the D150.  Maybe its my driveway lol. I'll have to do some measuring before I do anything drastic.

After checking the numbers on the carb, 9636SA turns out it is a competition series AFB 625 cfm. It is a square bore design.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 22, 2014, 04:52:22 AM
Ya the trucks also got the gas tanks on the drivers side. my 81 has 7leaf springs per side and really warn out coil springs which is why it sits level out front
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 24, 2014, 08:40:48 PM
Welcome to the jungle baby.  Near 100* high humidity and mosquito's the size of hummingbirds.  The Skeeter's here are so tough they eat Off like salsa. I even over heard one say, "Umm good, I like Mexican." Yeah our Skeeter's talk don't yours?

Ha ha....anyways, I took the carb off to clean it.  Full of leaves, dirt and stuff.  Secondaries wouldn't budge. Mudd daubers must love 318's. Cleaned up well.

Last couple of bolts to pull the motor. One behind oil filter and one behind the starter. Starter won't budge without lowering exhaust. Hangers are too rusty so I'll have to cut them off. The starter is one of those fat sobs and a clever little heat shield that I can't seem to get off. Thinking about putting the mini starter instead.

Crazy Chrysler, who's dumb idea to mix metric and see bolts. I just want to kick the man in the ass for that. Must have been Iacocca since that bastard came from Ford.

Check out this bulging heater hose. When I unhooked the other end, there was some bluish goop inside with the texture of plumbers putty. Strange....

Another interesting tidbit. The power steering is hooked up to a small cooler in front of the radiator.

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 24, 2014, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: SixGun on June 24, 2014, 08:40:48 PM
Another interesting tidbit. The power steering is hooked up to a small cooler in front of the radiator.


My RC had a power steering cooler.  Not sure if that was a factory option or not, but I had it replaced, when we were replacing everything ELSE under the hood last year.  With 35's, it doesn't HURT!


AHH!  Here it is - I thought I had a picture of it.  To the right of the pulley/below the water pump!


(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/The_War_Wagon/Ramcharger/PULLEYS1_zpsb69b02b6.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 24, 2014, 10:54:28 PM
I actually had one of those on my GTX that I stole from a cop car at the junkyard.  This one is the same size as a trans cooler. Seems like over kill, even for towing.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 25, 2014, 07:41:56 PM
my ramcharger also has a power steering cooler. i really don't see a need for it. my 81 don't have one and it has done just fine.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 25, 2014, 08:20:49 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on June 25, 2014, 07:41:56 PM
my ramcharger also has a power steering cooler. i really don't see a need for it. my 81 don't have one and it has done just fine.


We got the BONUS plan!  :tongue3:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 25, 2014, 09:46:24 PM
the mexico RC has a power steering cooler... and  for as hot as it can get down here and down in Mexico... I can see why it can be good.

I want to add hydro boost brakes to it, so that will be good once again.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on June 26, 2014, 12:15:44 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on June 25, 2014, 09:46:24 PM
I want to add hydro boost brakes to it, so that will be good once again.


You & me both, brudda - and rear wheel disc conversion, while I'm at it!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 26, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
I already got rear disk... I cheated I just got a 2005 9.25 rear end with rear disk and 3.92 gears and moved the spring perch's to fit  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on June 26, 2014, 03:54:35 PM
 Go with Wilwood master cylinder, Easier  to install and will lock the brakes up!

Sorry Richard, Highjack over  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 29, 2014, 10:40:26 PM
I went to visit Ernest this weekend to freshen up the 318 and put in a cam. Going on 3 days now and 2 engines. The motor was cracked. Ron offered a 318 he had for a future project to get me off and running. Ernest tore this one down also and it needed rod and main bearings.  I  tell you what, College Station doesn't carry 318 parts. This 2 horse town only carries stuff for your tractor or horse.  Sheesh..... :017:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on June 29, 2014, 11:18:33 PM
i guess the engine must have froze and cracked? so are you building 1 engine out of the 2?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 30, 2014, 05:13:21 AM
Yes sir, we should have one complete engine between the two and some new parts. I cleaned a heck of a lot of parts with varsol and learned how to use some HD heated pressure washer.  Its been great using the shop where he works. I couldn't imagine doing all this in a home garage. Access to unlimited tools :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on June 30, 2014, 06:38:24 AM
Quote from: SixGun on June 29, 2014, 10:40:26 PM
I went to visit Ernest this weekend to freshen up the 318 and put in a cam. Going on 3 days now and 2 engines. The motor was cracked. Ron offered a 318 he had for a future project to get me off and running. Ernest tore this one down also and it needed rod and main bearings.  I  tell you what, College Station doesn't carry 318 parts. This 2 horse town only carries stuff for your tractor or horse.  Sheesh..... :017:

I have a 318 that needs a timing chain. Plus a bunch of Small Block Parts. Let me know what you need.

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 30, 2014, 01:38:57 PM
Whew, thought it was gonna be another day but finally able to get parts in the next town over. Hopefully we are on the downhill slope.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 30, 2014, 03:17:07 PM
 :pics:


you know the rules  :laughing7:


glad your making progress, sorry to hear the block was cracked.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 30, 2014, 11:17:21 PM
I completely forgot to take pics of the motor but I did get some of his tan Chevy. It was a marathon engine build.  3 late days and early mornings. Ernest's wife is a good cook so that was definitely a pleasure.  He has a 100# putbull too.

Unless we find something else, the motor and I are going home tomorrow.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 01, 2014, 08:02:12 PM
So after the weekend, we had to move shop from Ernest's work shop to the mobile engine building unit often referred to as "the trailer".  Motor finally made it together and posed for a couple of pics. I would have to say that the accessory brackets were the most frustrating part of the assembly.  You just cant take enough pics. Here is the dubious man of mystery, Ernest, with his always present cell phone. That man lives, breathes and eats with that phone. On the road home, GPS took me through toll road 130. Check out the Texas Autobahn speed limit of 85 mph. Gotta love Texas highways!
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ernestgonzales78@gmail.com on July 01, 2014, 08:51:05 PM
Hey leave my phone out of ur fancy worded sentences.  :laughing7:
It was a very trying 3 days but I enjoyed it. Just wish I had a shop to
where we could work eat and sleep. Lol
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 01, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
No kidding...it was a long weekend. :iagree:

Thanks for all the hard work buddy. Thanks to you too Ron for pulling through in a crunch.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 01, 2014, 09:40:30 PM
so are you putting the smog pump back on since you re installed the bracket for it? otherwise it looks pretty good. you might also want to possibly keep your eyes open when you are parts searching at the auto recycles for the newer style power steering pump brackets like the ones on your 91. i really hate the older style one. i got a newer style bracket for my 81. i just need to install it eventually.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on July 01, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
Quote from: SixGun on July 01, 2014, 08:02:12 PM
So after the weekend, we had to move shop from Ernest's work shop to the mobile engine building unit often referred to as "the trailer".  Motor finally made it together and posed for a couple of pics. I would have to say that the accessory brackets were the most frustrating part of the assembly.  You just cant take enough pics. Here is the dubious man of mystery, Ernest, with his always present cell phone. That man lives, breathes and eats with that phone. On the road home, GPS took me through toll road 130. Check out the Texas Autobahn speed limit of 85 mph. Gotta love Texas highways!


Looks awesome guys!  :thumbsup: I love a good small block build  :13:  I love running our texas autobahn too....  :steeringwheel:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 01, 2014, 10:01:25 PM
I thought that PS bracket looked different.  It was hard to adjust too. I'll have to do some JY hunting. We were going to do a smog equipment delete but literally had no time. One of the block threaded plugs fit the passenger side exhaust manifold perfect. There are two smog tubes. The one over the intake on the drivers side was broken and completely clogged with carbon.  For the back of the exh manifolds, hopefully I can find some small freeze plugs to cap the holes like I did on the 91. I left the air pump brackets so I can adjust from there. Didn't really have time to re-engineer it there in regards to belts and pulley alignment and all that.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 01, 2014, 10:16:08 PM
ah. ya the newer style power steering pump brackets are so much nicer if you do ever have to replace your power steering belt or adjust it. the old style one can be very stiff and will usually require that 1/2" drive and possibly a pipe to move them. plus on the older style bracket you usually have to loose the 1 bolt which might lead to water pump gasket leaks. i know i have seen a bit of coolant seep out when i have loosened mine.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 02, 2014, 08:16:23 AM
Junk yard?

You should have a bracket off your old v6 on the 91.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 02, 2014, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: rjtx667 on July 02, 2014, 08:16:23 AM
Junk yard?

You should have a bracket off your old v6 on the 91.

I can't remember if the 318 I bought from you had one. I think I reused the V6 bracket.  I'll have to look. It would be nice if there's an extra one laying around here.  :victory:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 02, 2014, 01:42:05 PM
I gave you all the brackets and even the steering pump, A/C, and Alt.

I can't remember on the smog pump I think I had already taken it off, but I might have given it to ya I don't really recall.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 02, 2014, 03:33:13 PM
Found it.  Time for a little bracket musical chairs.  :dance:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 02, 2014, 08:32:08 PM
that is good to hear. good thing you are getting this done before added coolant to the engine.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 02, 2014, 10:03:39 PM
Switched PS brackets today.  Plugged the back of the exh manifolds also.  Airtubes and air pump deleted.

I climbed inside the engine bay to look at the converter and noticed markings on top of the tranny. It was rebuilt in '06. The converter was painted blue so it must be a rebuilt one. I need to get a deep pan kit still.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on July 03, 2014, 12:19:39 AM
Quote from: SixGun on July 02, 2014, 10:03:39 PMI need to get a deep pan kit still.


Been veddy, veddy, good to me!  ;D




(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/The_War_Wagon/Ramcharger/100_9196_zps3f3c5240.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 09, 2014, 05:42:02 PM
100* today which was great for painting but phew it wears you out. I think I drank a gallon of tea.  I even got stung in my armpit by a bee.  Lil bastards. 

Anyways, motor is in and engine bay cleaned.  Paint is still good so I left it alone.  Those Mopar Performance valve covers take special deep grommets and it was missing the breather. Those came in yesterday. I still need to grind the popout hole for the pcv valve.

The front suspension and steering looks rough so I ordered replacements from Rockauto.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 10, 2014, 07:06:05 AM
looking good :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 10, 2014, 08:50:32 AM
Dang your moving right along there!

:13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 10, 2014, 12:33:09 PM
Helps when you have everything already on the truck. Dont have to do a Ramcharger easter egg hunt.   :toothy9:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on July 10, 2014, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: SixGun on July 10, 2014, 12:33:09 PM
Helps when you have everything already on the truck. Dont have to do a Ramcharger easter egg hunt.   :toothy9:


Hmmmmm..... I know what you mean ..... we call it musical dodge parts  :tard: How many trucks does it take to build one?!.... :violent1:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ernestgonzales78@gmail.com on July 13, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Hey it only took two motors. Lol :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 15, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
Went to pick up the radiator today that I took in to get cleaned up and repaired. It was sprinkling on the way back and I saw a guy stopped at a light in a Tuner car. He had a long handled squeegee and was reaching out the drivers window doing the windshield.  The wife and I just burst out laughing at the same time. 

It reminded me of a 74 Charger that I wanted to buy from one of my teachers at my high school.  He was a real innovator. He had some string attached to the wipers running through the inside of the car since the wipers didn't work.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 18, 2014, 10:48:59 PM
Been struggling with brackets, "Damn Dodge brackets" as Ernest would say over and over when we were putting the motor together. Heck, he even had me saying it too.  I take pictures of everything as I tear it apart.  Ernest is of the throw it all in one pile and figure it out later school of thought.  Like a puzzle with no picture to go by.  :violent1:  Took some time but we finally put it together .... or did we???  :dontknow:  Alternator bracket didn't fit right causing it not to pivot correctly and AC bracket was a hair off interfering with the Alt belts.  Switched some washers around and "unbent" the Alt bracket.  Seems to work now - I hope.  I had switched the power steering bracket for the newer model as recommended.  Thought I could get away with just the front large bracket with the adjustment slot but apparently also need the back bracket that it pivots on too.  Pivots on lower bolt instead of upper bolt is why.  Everything needed was stolen from the V6 motor. Thanks Ryan for the idear.  If I ever use that motor again and some day I plan to, it will be HELL all over.  I have stolen so much from it LOL.  Ernest's parts washer in College Station, 3 hours away, apparently ate some misc bolts like a dryer eats socks.   :017:  So guess where I got those bolts from.   :laughing7:

Switching up the cooling a bit.  Of course, the radiator was gone through and checked/ cleaned/ repaired by a radiator shop.  Good insurance as Ernest frequently says.  This motor had a 6 blade flex fan and spacer. I had picked up a D250 7 blade fan at the JY some time back. Planned to use it for the 383 but plans changed.  Using it on this one with a new HD fan clutch.  Spins at 70-80% as opposed to 60-70% for stock.  Leaving the electric fans for now.  Switched to a 180* t-stat also.  Seems like overkill right now.

The extra mini starter I picked up some time back will go on this motor also.

The more I look at the front end as I climb under the truck, I see that I really need to rebuild it.  Ball joints and control arm bushings all came in but the steering will need to be replaced/ rebuilt also.  The PO was not afraid to grease everything but as I cleaned the extra goo off, I can see blown seals.  If I'm gonna replace a couple of pieces, I might as well do them all. Prices on RockAuto are great and make it a no brainer to do it all.  Mat, thanks for  introducing me to that site.



Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 19, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
lol. if i was in your situation i would have probably just robbed all the brackets off the v6 and just swapped them onto the v8. then that way you could upgrading to a 120amp alternator in the future and it would be a straight bolt on upgrade once you got the denso alt brackets on it.

i am pretty sure you would have stumbled upon rockauto eventually. it is pretty popular accross the web and once you understand the shipping icon system you can sometime save a whole lot of money on shipping.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 20, 2014, 07:45:12 PM
Actually picked up items for all three trucks but the heck, I'll post it here.  There's a guy parting out a 79 RC.  I picked up a roll bar for Carter, visor for the D150, and a Bosch 100 amp alt for the 76 RC. I know Carter is a 2X but he wanted one, the price was right and so was the color. Whaddaya know, the visor is the right color also.  :laughing7:

Those alts (Bosch AL528X) go for $100 reman. Paid $25.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 20, 2014, 08:06:16 PM
sweet. did you also get the brackets to go with the alternator? i just know those 100 amp alternators are big and require the special heavy duty brackets. i know i got one in my 81. i currently only got 1 belt on it and you have to make sure it is kept under enough pressure or it gets chewed up. already had to replace it once. also the newer denso 120amps are smaller and nicer. the one i got came off a 96 jeep grand Cherokee. all i had to do was swap the pulley out for the v groove pulley off the 70amp denso alternator that i have.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 20, 2014, 08:16:15 PM
The bracket was on a 360. Think it would work on a 383? Only 2 bolts held it on there - the pivot and the adjustment slot.  As for the weight, a little more. It is aluminum but a little bulky.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 20, 2014, 08:29:51 PM
i don't think it would work with a 383 but i think i have been told the 100 amp alternator brackets can be a bit harder to find. it don't sound like it had the same bracket my 100 amp alternator has. my truck has a 1 piece bracket. when all bolted together with alt and all the thing the thing weighed a fair bit.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5SPkQgR75lI/UJM8RpAM2SI/AAAAAAAADrY/bulbeZGssuU/s720/IMAG0233.jpg)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 20, 2014, 08:39:07 PM
It looks the same as yours. You can see it in the pic below.

I might just go back and pick that booger up just in case.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on July 20, 2014, 08:43:13 PM
Mine came with whatever weak-ass factory offering it came with - 65 amps, I think.


Thing is, I got the 125amp replacement that was optional, and it fit perfectly - no new brackets necessary!   :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 20, 2014, 08:48:31 PM
you should go back and grab that plus the a/c compressor and the brackets need to install it. you could use it as an on board air compressor.  the alt bracket is held in real good and is heavy duty as you can see. also does your 76 still need a heater box? it that one in ok shape?

@ War Wagon your RC most likely had a 90 amp alternator from the factory
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 20, 2014, 08:58:44 PM
Heater box was good but Danger Dave hooked me up already.

Onboard air....pffft...that's what Ron and Ernest are there for. Ha ha
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 20, 2014, 09:07:55 PM
on board air is always nice. have you ever price out those compressor/clutch setups out? they are not cheap. if i didn't live up in the land of expensive shipping i would have taken it. i wouldn't mind on board air. just finding the right parts are hard and they are not getting any easier to find.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 23, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
 :sunny:  somebody turn the heat down, I'm sweating my ass off.

This heat wave is a killer with 90% humidity and 100*.

Ever have a missing bolt hold up your project. 3 days no less.  Yeah me either....never mind.  :disgust:

I dropped a valve cover bolt and wanted to be sure that it didn't go through the opening in the head to the lifter valley.  I tried all kinds of magnet contraptions with no luck.  Looked all over the motor underneath, in the frame cubbies and top of the tranny etc. Even took the weed eater and cut the grass down to the dirt. Metal detector in the grass.  Finally broke down and pulled everything off to tale the intake off and be sure. Good news is it wasn't there. Bad news is its not in there. Wtf is it??? Time for reinforcements. Time for the master tracker. Time for Eagle Eyes Yolanda to do her magic.  15 minutes later her bloodhound senses found it. I had to tale her out to eat.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 23, 2014, 11:29:09 PM
hahaha. don't you just love when finding things is that easy lol. i have misplaced stuff like that before. look for it everywhere and then it just turns up right in front of you.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 23, 2014, 11:31:31 PM
24 hours later I'm right back where I was 4 days ago. Now that's progress  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 24, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
thats nothing... try putting heads on only to finish it up and start it and find #2 exhaust has a bent valve.

On a 4.7 l overhead cam no less.

That Suxs... this... just means your taking your time  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 03, 2014, 01:11:41 PM
I am seriously thinking of removing some of the clutter in front of the radiator. Thinking of removing one of the pusher fans and leaving the other over the trans cooler. The removing the large power steering cooler and going with a small one from a magnum engine. Figured I can tuck it in somewhere like on a frame rail. The one I have is actually a trans cooler and is quite large especially with all the rubber lines going to the front of the radiator.  What do you think?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 03, 2014, 02:45:40 PM
do you think you would require any pusher fans at all? if the cooling system is working fine the engine should not need them. also do you really need a power steering cooler? my 93 is the first vehicle i have ever seen with one.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 03, 2014, 04:07:05 PM
I've wondered about the need for a PS cooler also. I wonder why the factory put them on later years? I wonder if there are any studies on this? I personally wonder if it is linked to towing? This truck had been used for towing. Ernest felt that some things were tied to the truck running hot with the cracked block.  He figured they were throwing parts at it to try and solve it. Multiple thermostats, freeze plugs fans and radiator removed. I don't remember if I mentioned it but the thermostat was removed. Old school tactic that with the radiator removed, mice got into the block. There was acorns and nesting materials in the water jackets that we cleaned out with the pressure washer. Funny shit  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on August 03, 2014, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on August 03, 2014, 02:45:40 PMalso do you really need a power steering cooler? my 93 is the first vehicle i have ever seen with one.


Big MEATS and a lift?  YES.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 03, 2014, 05:21:32 PM
it is only a 2wd ramcharger. i don't really see a 2wd ramcharger needing one that bad.
Quote from: SixGun on August 03, 2014, 04:07:05 PM
I've wondered about the need for a PS cooler also. I wonder why the factory put them on later years? I wonder if there are any studies on this? I personally wonder if it is linked to towing? This truck had been used for towing. Ernest felt that some things were tied to the truck running hot with the cracked block.  He figured they were throwing parts at it to try and solve it. Multiple thermostats, freeze plugs fans and radiator removed. I don't remember if I mentioned it but the thermostat was removed. Old school tactic that with the radiator removed, mice got into the block. There was acorns and nesting materials in the water jackets that we cleaned out with the pressure washer. Funny shit  :laughing7:
ya that seems to be the way it works sometimes. throw parts at something to fix it. could remove them and see how it runs temp wise.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 03, 2014, 05:42:17 PM
I really don't think I'll need the electric fans with the 7 blade factory fan with HD fan clutch.Radiator has been cleaned out also.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 03, 2014, 05:48:09 PM
as long as it keeps the truck cool that is all that matters. the rad in my 81 is getting older and you can see some calcium build up in it but it still manages to keep my truck cool
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on August 03, 2014, 08:45:45 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on August 03, 2014, 05:21:32 PM
it is only a 2wd ramcharger. i don't really see a 2wd ramcharger needing one that bad.


Maybe it aspires to more...  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 08, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
Heres some pics before and after removing the electric fans. Marked all the wires in case I want to use them in the future. You can see the 2 coolers. Larger top one for trans and smaller one on bottom for PS. Washed a lot of crud and leaves out of there.

After taking another look at the rear axle, apparently it is a 2.94? gear ratio. Even worse than I thought. Ryan that 9-1/4 is sounding better. 3.55 would be a big improvement.

Spent some time repairing the stereo wiring. It was really butchered. For now, I just used some spare stereo equipment laying around so I could put the dash face back in.

Lastly, moved the sway bar from the D150 to Carter.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on August 09, 2014, 12:35:50 AM
Quote from: SixGun on August 08, 2014, 07:24:53 PMAfter taking another look at the rear axle, apparently it is a 2.94? gear ratio. Even worse than I thought. Ryan that 9-1/4 is sounding better. 3.55 would be a big improvement.


I tell you what - running 35's, I can't believe I ever CONSIDERED 4.10's - I went 4.56, and am REALLY starting to wish I'd gone 4.88 instead!  T'ain't no such thing as too MUCH gear... unless of course, they DON'T fit inside the carrier...  :tongue3:

QuoteSpent some time repairing the stereo wiring. It was really butchered. For now, I just used some spare stereo equipment laying around so I could put the dash face back in.


I'm glad you posted that last pic - with the fuse box flopping off the brake pedal!  And here I thought mine was somehow "broken," because it did the same!  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 09, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
30 years of people hacking on wiring really makes a mess. The electric fans had wires strewn around the engine compartment also.  The brake controller has wiring I want to keep for now. I have 2 wires that I can't ID in the dash wiring. One is a ground strap hangung loose behind the car stereo. Another is a white random wire running alongside one of the stereo harnesses. I'll try to take a pic later so someone might ID it.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on August 09, 2014, 01:54:10 PM
Quote from: SixGun on August 09, 2014, 10:17:27 AMI have 2 wires that I can't ID in the dash wiring. One is a ground strap hangung loose behind the car stereo. Another is a white random wire running alongside one of the stereo harnesses. I'll try to take a pic later so someone might ID it.


Having JUST installed the stereo in my RC, I can tell you that I UTILIZED that grounding strap again!  ;D


Don't recall seeing ANY white wires in MY dash... but then, it still had the factory stereo.  That sounds 'aftermarket' to me.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 09, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
Quote from: The War Wagon on August 09, 2014, 12:35:50 AM

I tell you what - running 35's, I can't believe I ever CONSIDERED 4.10's - I went 4.56, and am REALLY starting to wish I'd gone 4.88 instead!  T'ain't no such thing as too MUCH gear... unless of course, they DON'T fit inside the carrier...  :tongue3:
you also have a A518 which is different than a 727. 3.55 gears should be more than fine on 2wd vehicle with a 727 trans. i got 3.23 gears in my 81 and the engine was only spinning at about 3400rpm at 90mph which makes it pretty good for highway driving without overdrive. 3.55 gears would also be ok for highway driving.

Quote from: SixGun on August 09, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
30 years of people hacking on wiring really makes a mess. The electric fans had wires strewn around the engine compartment also.  The brake controller has wiring I want to keep for now. I have 2 wires that I can't ID in the dash wiring. One is a ground strap hangung loose behind the car stereo. Another is a white random wire running alongside one of the stereo harnesses. I'll try to take a pic later so someone might ID it.
the ground strap bolts to the back of the stereo.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on August 09, 2014, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on August 09, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
you also have a A518 which is different than a 727. 3.55 gears should be more than fine on 2wd vehicle with a 727 trans. i got 3.23 gears in my 81 and the engine was only spinning at about 3400rpm at 90mph which makes it pretty good for highway driving without overdrive. 3.55 gears would also be ok for highway driving.


Betcha could bark 'em shifting manually through all three gears with 4.88's though!  :tongue3:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on August 10, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
bark 'em and not be able to pass a gas station maybe?  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 10, 2014, 10:49:30 PM
i think barking em would be an understatement with 4.88 gears. i know someone on another forum that has a 76 d200 with 4.10 gears and he says it is usually pretty up there rpm wise when driving the speed limit on those Texas highways.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 12, 2014, 01:15:51 PM
Last week it hovered around 100* and this week has been over 100*.  Today it rains.  Weather gods must favor Ford or Chevy.  Can't rain for long though, this is Texas after all.  :laughing7:

Just completed the rebuild on the passenger side suspension. New ball joints, lower and upper control arm bushings, 2" lift coil spring spacer and shocks. Parts are fairly cheap through Rockauto but labor is a pita. Might just stop here and only lift one side lol.  Yeah right, I'm just riding out the rain for now. Can you see the difference front to rear. Its amazing what a difference 2" makes.  Just ask your wife or girlfriend, I'm sure they'll agree.  :nono:

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: The War Wagon on August 12, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: SixGun on August 12, 2014, 01:15:51 PMIts amazing what a difference 2" makes.  Just ask your wife or girlfriend, I'm sure they'll agree.  :nono:


Funny thing about that.  I already have my obituary planned already - even down to the cause of death... "caused in part due to complications following his third penis reduction surgery..."   8)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 15, 2014, 06:58:10 PM
Finished the front suspension today and as soon as i cleaned up, in comes three boxes from FedEx for my steering rebuild. The inner and outer tie rods, new sleeves, center link and idler arm should be a breeze.  In case anyone is interested, the front fender lip is now 7-1/4" above the edge of the tire. I'm riding on P235/75R15's.

Here's a before and after pic of one of the rims. A little wet sanding and wow what a transformation.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 16, 2014, 06:35:52 PM
Finished the steering today.  So much easier when you get new adjusting sleeves. Just laid out the old linkage and built the new linkage and sized it up and bolted it in. Greased everything up with Green Grease. Its synthetic and waterproof. I used it on the front suspension and to pack the front wheel bearings.

Picked up a new battery from O'Reillys today.
http://m.oreillyauto.com/mt/www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/SSB7/34EXT/07053.oap?year=1985&make=Dodge&model=Ramcharger&vi=5003551&ck=Search_battery_C0423_5003551_2382&redirectkeyword=battery&pt=C0423&ppt=C0005
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on August 16, 2014, 06:38:41 PM
Yep that is the only way to do tie rods....money well spent  :great: Cant wit for the shake down run report  :steeringwheel:


Quote from: SixGun on August 16, 2014, 06:35:52 PM
Finished the steering today.  So much easier when you get new adjusting sleeves. Just laid out the old linkage and built the new linkage and sized it up and bolted it in. Greased everything up with Green Grease. Its synthetic and waterproof. I used it on the front suspension and to pack the front wheel bearings.

Picked up a new battery from O'Reillys today.
http://m.oreillyauto.com/mt/www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/SSB7/34EXT/07053.oap?year=1985&make=Dodge&model=Ramcharger&vi=5003551&ck=Search_battery_C0423_5003551_2382&redirectkeyword=battery&pt=C0423&ppt=C0005
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 23, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
Knocking out gremlins and found a couple of items in the gas tank. One is the filter sock off the pickup tube. The other item I'm not sure about. Looks like a piece off a gas nozzle or maybe used to siphon the tank and fell off. I say that because the tank was bone dry. Also found some debris and what looked like bark. Not sure how or why though. So a couple of things I'm wondering about.

1) have any of you ever fabbed a sock before and how did you do it?

2) would using zip ties to hold it in place work?

3) Is the pickup tube pointing too high?

They sell new ones but they run $120 and up. Seems a lot for a filter sock.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 23, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
are we going to get some pictures to tell you if your pickup tube is pointing too high

filters sock it $120? can't you get a new sending unit for about that? i am pretty sure you can get a new filter sock for a lot cheaper. this might work or they might have something that would work
http://www.cjponyparts.com/filter-fuel-tank-sending-unit-1979-1985/p/FSUF2/
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 23, 2014, 12:26:16 PM
Lol I guess pics would help. The $120 is for a whole new pickup/sending unit.

http://www.tascaparts.com/oe-mopar/4075382?mobile=0


Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on August 23, 2014, 02:00:31 PM
I did a search and couldn't find anything cheaper then what you already found. Have you thought about taking yours to the Auto Parts store and trying off the shelf socks? Maybe find one that will work.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 23, 2014, 04:20:19 PM
Didn't know they sold the filter sock by itself. I'll  have to look. Thanks.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on August 23, 2014, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: SixGun on August 23, 2014, 04:20:19 PM
Didn't know they sold the filter sock by itself. I'll  have to look. Thanks.

You can also use the plastic filter type that attaches to the tube if you can;t find the sock
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 23, 2014, 05:45:46 PM
before you go buying a filter sock you might want to test the gas sending unit and make sure it works. it almost looks like the sending unit might be shot.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on August 24, 2014, 08:47:30 PM
Quote from: SixGun on August 23, 2014, 12:26:16 PM
Lol I guess pics would help. The $120 is for a whole new pickup/sending unit.

http://www.tascaparts.com/oe-mopar/4075382?mobile=0

It looks like the pickup is bent up to me ...... it should be about 90 degrees Air tex p/n fs254 should be the right filter sock

http://www.amazon.com/Airtex-FS254-Universal-Strainer-Sending/dp/B006I442FG/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1408931222&sr=1-1&keywords=fs254

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 25, 2014, 08:24:49 AM
Ordered one off eBay for $10. Hopefully its easy to change out. I figure the pickup should be about level with the float.  I read a writeup on Dodgetalk about adjusting and checking level.

http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363738
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 25, 2014, 11:23:52 AM
did you verify that the sending unit still works?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 25, 2014, 12:24:41 PM
Hopefully get that done today or tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on August 25, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
i just figure you would have done that first before ordering parts. that way if your send unit is dead you haven't wasted any money on it.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 25, 2014, 03:39:56 PM
I figure that any used sending unit could use a new screen for just $10. Heck that's just the price of lunch. Good insurance. Not to mention that I'm really curious how easy it is to change.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 30, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
Been messing with my power door lock on the passenger side. It no workie and I don't want to put anything worth ripping off in the truck without at least a door lock. So after awhile I notice that the door lock switch is broken and so the wiring is not connected.  After closer inspection, I see that the actuator is locked up which probably caused the forcing of the switch to break it. Both the switch and the actuator of course are discontinued items. Found an old RCC thread about using universal actuators. They are only $10 so I ordered a pair to fab something up. The switch will have to be a JY item.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on August 31, 2014, 08:09:31 AM
Quote from: SixGun on August 30, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
Been messing with my power door lock on the passenger side. It no workie and I don't want to put anything worth ripping off in the truck without at least a door lock. So after awhile I notice that the door lock switch is broken and so the wiring is not connected.  After closer inspection, I see that the actuator is locked up which probably caused the forcing of the switch to break it. Both the switch and the actuator of course are discontinued items. Found an old RCC thread about using universal actuators. They are only $10 so I ordered a pair to fab something up. The switch will have to be a JY item.

does yours have the black plastic actuators or the metal cylindrical type?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on August 31, 2014, 12:41:37 PM
Big heavy metal cylinder.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 13, 2014, 07:38:20 AM
Digging around in the garage and ran across a set of Hella driving lights I picked up on clearance some time back.  Mounted them but curious about wiring them up. I would like to use them as low beam driving lights like you see on quite a few vehicles now a days.  I've read that the Hella 500's 55watt are pretty bright.  I've also read that regular headlights are 55 watts also. Sounds do-able.  Are these illegal in Texas for low beam use?  Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on September 13, 2014, 09:31:50 AM
I think that if you adjusted them low enough that you could probably avoid trouble and run them at all times with low beam. To wire on low beam only use a relay that is powered on by the low beam output wire that comes out of the dimmer switch. run the relay ground to a toggle switch so you can turn them off if you want. power for the lights should be fused (20-30amp) and be run in 10-12gauge wire to the relay from the battery or off the starter relay post if there is room. Run the same larger wire from the relay to the lights (fuse optional) your ground for the lights will come from a ground wire on the core support (make sure core support is grounded to baterry -  :thumbsup:

It is also a really good idea to do this for your standard headlights also. The way the factory did it is pretty crappy and can result in burned out headlight switches and flickering high beams  :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 13, 2014, 09:41:38 AM
^^i agree. if you put the headlights on relays then you could just wire those lights in with the relay harness. here is a very good diy for putting your headlights on relays and it even shows you how to keep your low beams on while your highs are on if you want to do that. makes a huge difference when driving down a dark road that you need your high beams on.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/showthread.php?t=176263
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 13, 2014, 11:12:28 AM
Thanks guys.  :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 13, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
After analyzing it for awhile, I came up with a plan of action for the door lock actuator. The new one is pretty close in length to the original but a completely different shape and attachment points.  I first made some marks to remember which end was what on the bracket and then I drilled out the 4 spot welds. Next I hammered the bracket flat and tweaked it a bit to make it perfectly flat since the original contoured to the large cylinder. Then I drilled 2 set holes for the 2 dimples on the flat side of the new actuator.  Took some careful measurements since they are slightly offset from each other. Used 2 zip ties through the spot weld holes and anchored through the attachment barrels. Its pretty snug and doesnt wiggle because the set holes/ dimples keep it in place. 

Fairly easy to do but still need to find a switch at the JY. I've got high hopes for this repair.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 13, 2014, 06:10:18 PM
Well its official now. Ramcharger gas tanks are a major pain in the ass. Especially in comparison to the side tank on my RAM.

On the good side, I finally put it back and buttoned it up. Now it to clean up for date night with the missus.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 28, 2014, 10:06:30 PM
Since Ryan went to D60, he gave me a 9-1/4 for Carter.   :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 29, 2014, 10:13:06 PM
sweet. so are you going to install a crush sleeve eliminator kit before you install it?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 29, 2014, 10:32:21 PM
Seals and crush sleeve eliminator are the plan.  After taking some measurements today, it looks like I will need a combo joint. 7290/7260.  The yoke on the 9-1/4 surprisingly sticks out 2" less than the 8-1/4 axle but it looks like my trans yoke can take it. I want to take it apart to see if it truly has a LS and what shape its in. It was in a running truck.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 30, 2014, 08:34:17 AM
ok. maybe you can take lots of pictures. i want to install one in my ramcharger but a bit scared to mess anything up since it is pretty much my daily driver. my LSD still works pretty good in the ramcharger :laughing7:. i test it out regularly.

rockauto sells crush sleeve eliminator kits but i don't know if they are any good or not. only a couple $$ cheaper than the other ones i have seen so i figure the quality must be about the same
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 30, 2014, 01:25:38 PM
I actually have one that I ordered some time back for the 76. Came with no directions.  Looks like a spacer and some real thin shims. Hopefully there's a writeup or good video somewhere. :read2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 30, 2014, 06:11:52 PM
Quote from: SixGun on September 30, 2014, 01:25:38 PM
I actually have one that I ordered some time back for the 76. Came with no directions.  Looks like a spacer and some real thin shims. Hopefully there's a writeup or good video somewhere. :read2:
Quote from: SixGun on September 30, 2014, 05:26:43 PM
Mat, here's some instructions from Ratech.  Kinda vague.

http://www.ratechmfg.com/chryslerspbs.htm
thanks. ya i have been looking and really not finding a great set of directions to go with it. i really don't like the vague directions. i have an idea how much work it is to install and an idea what you have to do but really don't want to mess up my daily driver. i think i was searching for a good diy or video and was not coming up with much plus i see something like this turning into a couple day job for me.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 30, 2014, 08:57:51 PM
The actual swapping of the rear axle is the easy/ fast part. If you do all the teardown on the axle donor ahead of time it should be quick. You should use new ubolts so the old ones you would just cut off. Its just a couple extra steps from adding a leaf. Bleed brakes, refill diff, adjust parking brake  and change ujoint. Definately want to measure for correct ujoint. May have to order a combo joint. My 9-1/4 axle yoke is 7290 and driveshaft is 7260. Easily a 1-2 day job with some preparation.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 30, 2014, 11:33:57 PM
in your case i think it would be easier than mine since i already got a 9 1/4 under my ramcharger from the factory. i would have to take it all apart while under the RC or fight with the Canadian rust to get it out from under my rc. my RC already has an extra leaf and heavier front coils. i think if you were to stick a 3" body lift under it would clear 33's and sit right up there next to your truck height wise. i was actually thinking about trying to find some lightly used 30's as a small lift and to fill the wheel wells a bit better.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 01, 2014, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on September 30, 2014, 11:33:57 PM
i was actually thinking about trying to find some lightly used 30's as a small lift and to fill the wheel wells a bit better.

31's would easily fit and look good too.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on October 01, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
i had seen a set of 31 up for sale but i think i was looking at 1 website and it said it would throw my speedometer off by a bit more than i would have liked where 30's wouldn't be too bad. plus i don't need too big of a tire. i would just like a little bit more of an aggressive look. my rc still sees lots of highway driving. i put at least 100 mile on the thing in a week
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 20, 2014, 10:06:09 PM
Went to pull the carb's air cleaner stud in order to put a taller air cleaner and snap.  Broke that bitch.  Messed with it and drilled it down to run an extractor.  Soaked it heated it but No dice....hmmmm.  So it sat and sat and sat some more.   

Yesterday I'm taking some tools back to my buddy's house and we get to talking about it.  He sends me packing with some super penetrant AeroKroil. Dude tells me don't waste it cuz its expensive. Also gives me some fancy smancy bolt extraction tool.  Also explains that the stud is in the base not the air horn. Remove the air horn and there should be enough meat to turn the stud. Well shit pies and applesauce.

Removed the air horn but the stud was too thin for the extractor.  Tried the infamous pipe wrench but still a no go.  All the time keeping it soaked with AeroKroil. Doused it at least five times.  Last straw was the vise grips and smacks from a hammer.  Fought me tooth and nail but finally........SUCCESS!




 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on October 20, 2014, 10:15:20 PM
good job.... now get down here and extract my broken pins in the tie rod ends
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on October 21, 2014, 07:24:53 AM
looks like that old carby could use some cleansing  :brushteeth:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 21, 2014, 11:57:00 AM
Yep I cleaned the outside but didn't think it would be that bad inside.
  Surprise surprise.  :icon_scratch:

Its torn apart now and soaking. Need to go get a kit now. Tore a few gaskets.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on October 22, 2014, 05:49:47 PM
at least Carter should run good when the time comes to fire him up
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 22, 2014, 07:13:25 PM
I was so tempted to put the AFB together now that its all nice and clean but priority was the RAM.  She told me that she wants to wear a cap to Hidden Falls. So I got after it today. Cutting it close but it only has to be functional not completely done.  My roof has faded off in just 2 years. Hope to get it at least primed before HF.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on October 22, 2014, 10:24:36 PM
that should look good  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 01, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
 :brushteeth:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 04, 2014, 02:02:15 PM
Problem for today- throttle was binding. At first, I thought it was the butterflies on the gasket but after further inspection I figured it out.  I had a thick gasket originally like the TBI's and since it it an aluminum intake, I figured I wouldn't need an insulator type gasket.  This caused the fast idle screw to hit the egr. I tried using an adapter I had laying around but it needed longer studs. So back on with the old insulator for now sandwiched between two thin gaskets.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 18, 2014, 05:59:09 PM
Been trying to fire up Carter but I'm having a no fuel issue.  I installed an electric fuel pump that Ryan gave me off his parts truck.  I finally came up with a location tucked in a cubby behind the leaf spring just outside the frame rail.  It is away from moving parts and exhaust. Gonna cover it over with a small shield. Only thing left is to wire it up.

I had to drop the gas tank to access the fuel lines. I put the nuts, socket and flashlight on the bumper of the Ram.  I'll be damned if I didn't forget about it when i went to get fuel line.  I found some replacement nuts and the flashlight was a freebie from Harbor Freight but the deep well socket was an impact socket. It was the deepest socket i had to reach the nuts on the gas tank straps.  That really sucks!  I just hope that was all I left on there.   :disgust:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on November 18, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
did you test the pump yet?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 18, 2014, 06:38:24 PM
Gonna start at the back. Blow out the line and run electric pump up to mechanical pump.  The mechanical pump is new. Gotta find the receipt just in case.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 19, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
Geez....shoulda read the instructions first. Apparently this electric "Facet" fuel pump needs to be mounted at a 45* angle with outlet above inlet. This is to prevent vapor lock.
Sucks even more because I already built a protective cover out of scrap.  :violent1:

On the good side, I retraced my route to Napa and found the flashligjt and impact socket. It fell off as I turned into the parking lot.  :dance:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on November 21, 2014, 10:27:32 AM
small progress... but progress is good.

I don't think that pump was mounted that way in the 85?


but then again we don't know if it worked in the 85 either!  :violent1:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 21, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
I do remember it being at an angle. I thought it was odd at the time when I removed it.  However it should be 12" from fuel tank below the tank level ideally.  It was in the engine bay above the charcoal canister.  :017:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on November 24, 2014, 08:18:09 AM
your questioning the install of something on a truck that was full of WTF?  :violent1:

lol who knows if it ever worked correctly on it, with their home made tow bar I question many things about that truck.

Don't forget the chain steps too  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 24, 2014, 04:43:51 PM
I posed a question at the masses of RCC.  What to wire the electric fuel pump to?  Crickets for a couple of days and then DodgeBoys to the rescue with a wiring diagram.  I still dont understand the 3 pole oil pressure switch. Heres a link to my thread. Help if you can.

http://ramchargercentral.com/vehicle-help/electric-fuel-pump-wiring/
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on November 24, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
is Carter using the stock style electric choke? i think that is the switch Dodgeboy is point towards you using to run the fuel pump. that is pretty much how they do it. you use the oil pressure switch to control the fuel pump relay. this might help you understand it better
http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/electric-fuel-pump.html
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 24, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
Awesome link Mat! :thumbsup:

Thanks buddy :icon_salut:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 24, 2014, 06:40:43 PM
Btw, it has an electric choke attached to that 3 blade switch.

A picture is worth a 1,000 words. I was having an information overload.   :tard:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on November 24, 2014, 07:50:09 PM
your welcome. i remember seeing that posted on dodge forum back when i use to hang out there and thought it seemed pretty simple. i know all it takes sometimes is the right picture and everything just clicks. the only thing i think you might have an issue with is you will need to get another T or splitter to install another sensor since i think the stock block only has 2 ports which are already in use. SuperBurban looks like he has a pretty good solution
http://ramchargercentral.com/open-discussions/what-did-you-do-to-your-rc-today/5700/
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 25, 2014, 07:24:28 AM
I went ahead and ordered the oil pressure switch they recommended. Summit carries them and picked up a couple of items to take advantage if the free shipping.  Its like I got the switch for free.

I have a couple of extra relays laying around all ready. Just need to pick up some 16 & 10 gauge wire and connectors. I've made tee connections before to set up gauges on 91 Ram. I may still have some parts laying around I can pilfer from. 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on November 25, 2014, 07:24:58 AM
I like living dangerously I guess. No oil pressure switches needed....just a toggle switch to shut down the pump relay if i need to have the key on without the engine running (makes a great anti-theft device also ). Keep in mind that the fuel pump will not run until oil pressure is seen on that switch. I like having my electric pump prime the carb before cranking, as it it makes for much quicker starts.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on November 25, 2014, 11:40:45 AM
if things are working properly then there should be more than enough fuel in the carb to get the engine running and oil pressure up. i know i use to disconnect my fuel line at the carb and run it into a bottle and fire my truck up to get lawn mower gas for a lazy friend of mine. could usually fill a 500ml bottle and still have enough gas in the carb to start after.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 25, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: ProjectPW on November 25, 2014, 07:24:58 AM
Keep in mind that the fuel pump will not run until oil pressure is seen on that switch. I like having my electric pump prime the carb before cranking, as it it makes for much quicker starts.

Here is a quote from CW's HotRod link. "One wire goes to the pump, one to the start circuit, and the other to the ignition circuit. So, when there is no oil pressure, the switch connects START to PUMP, and as soon as you start cranking it runs the pump. When the oil pressure comes up, the switch connects IGN to PUMP, for normal running. When oil pressure goes away (because you just hit that rock and tore the pan off the engine, for example) it again connects START to PUMP, and disconnects IGN from PUMP, so the pump shuts off."

Sounds good in theory. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: workgoats on November 25, 2014, 09:18:00 PM
That's pretty much the same as the MegaSquirt computer on the yellow truck.  If it doesn't see the signal from the crank or cam sensor it shuts the fuel pump and the ignition down.

Of course, that doesn't cover the hole in the pan...
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on December 06, 2014, 06:27:49 PM
So I guess I'll be the one poster for the week. :017:

I used a scrap condesation tray from an old ac box. It was originally going to be the fuel pump cover but things changed. After reading the directions, I discovered that the desired mounting is at a 45* angle with inlet lower than the outlet. This should prevent vapor lock. It also should have a prefilter and I ordered one. I cut the cover and bent an angle. The outlet is protected now and the inlet with prefilter was too close to the frame. I engineered an extension to the fuel line and looped it so it would not kink the fuel line. Zip tied it to the cover to keep it from rubbing and swinging around.

I was going to blow out the fuel line from the fuel pump to the rear but when I loosened the clamp at the mechanical pump fuel came out so that line is clear.  Hmm...

I still need to wire it up to the new oil pump shut off sensor I bought. I had an old tee fitting that fits the manifold and oil pressure sensor but not the new sensor. So I still need to get an adapter to fit and some long wire. Need to pick up some connectors also. I do have a spare relay already.

Lil closer. Been working a lot of hours with Christmas season here.  I get up at a quarter to 3am to get ready for work. When I get off, I conk out and seems like lately, its dark already when I wake up. Lol
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on December 07, 2014, 06:03:17 PM
Looks like you are making good progress  :thumbsup:

Now whats the status on the Pop Top RC  :dance:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on December 07, 2014, 06:52:19 PM
Its been on standby.  :sleepy:

I did pick up some more black spoke rims on sale at summit.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on January 09, 2015, 07:01:39 PM
Any progress on ole Carter?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 09, 2015, 07:04:24 PM
Seems like every day off is ugly outside.  :017:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on January 09, 2015, 07:09:08 PM
Quote from: SixGun on January 09, 2015, 07:04:24 PM
Seems like every day off is ugly outside.  :017:

Damn the luck. I'm hoping for some nice weather when I return in hopes of working on a project. Need to do some stuff on the Beast and Green machine.

Maybe I missed it, But have you driven it much?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 09, 2015, 07:14:38 PM
Ive been having a no fire issue. No fuel in the line. Rechecked everything and installed electric pump. Just need to wire it up and hopefully that's it.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on January 09, 2015, 07:18:27 PM
Quote from: SixGun on January 09, 2015, 07:14:38 PM
Ive been having a no fire issue. No fuel in the line. Rechecked everything and installed electric pump. Just need to wire it up and hopefully that's it.

Hopefully Youll get it straightened out because it looks like a good truck. Would make a great daily Driver!

I've wanted to build a 2wd RC for awhile and even found a 77 on Craigslist. But I have to many irons in the fire right now.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 16, 2015, 06:50:02 PM
Started with the 10 ga main wire to the electric fuel pump this afternoon. Nice outside for once.  For something so simple, putting the loom on 10 ft of wire was a PITA.  Then trying to feed it into the frame rail and through it with the tank in place. Hopefully, the worst is behind me and the weather is clear tomorrow.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on January 16, 2015, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: SixGun on January 16, 2015, 06:50:02 PM
Started with the 10 ga main wire to the electric fuel pump this afternoon. Nice outside for once.  For something so simple, putting the loom on 10 ft of wire was a PITA.  Then trying to feed it into the frame rail and through it with the tank in place. Hopefully, the worst is behind me and the weather is clear tomorrow.

Can't wait to see that thing up and running!
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 16, 2015, 07:43:33 PM
You and me both.  Ernest keeps hounding me about it also. He wants to see how his motor runs that he built.

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on January 25, 2015, 08:23:48 AM
Its been decent this weekend, where's the update?  :laughing7:

I can't say much I had to run down to Beaumont for some side work... hope to be back later today with enough time to work on a few things before the sun goes down.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on February 25, 2015, 09:24:32 AM
well ???
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 25, 2015, 10:57:05 AM
Had a busy weekend with my folks in town because my nephew just flew in from Europe. He is actually going to stay with us until he's situated. But I did get a little time yesterday even with the grandson with us. He took a nap and got my chance.  Tie strapped and loomed the wiring.  Only stopped to make sure I wired to the correct side of the ballast resistor.  Next thing you know, my grandson is up and then my daughter shows up. Dinner was ready and that put an end to work. Lol

I should wrap it up today unless.... :dontknow:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on February 25, 2015, 12:42:09 PM
any progress is good progress  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 25, 2015, 02:39:41 PM
Yeah, I need to get this done so I can move on to other things.   :BangHead:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on February 25, 2015, 02:44:01 PM
I know that feeling
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on February 25, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
should have just stuck with the mechanical pump. could have had it running by now.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 25, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
Well, theres gas in the carb. I can see it and smell it. Still no fire. Just cranks and cranks. Once it went poof but that was it. I need to find a no fire checklist and start running them down one by one. First thing that comes to mind is the coil. Starter relay plug is very loose too.


:017:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on February 25, 2015, 05:48:03 PM
you check for spark at the plug yet?

another option is timing is off or th spark plug wires are in the wrong order?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 25, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
I double checked the timing the first time it no fired. I will check again to be sure.   :read2:

It always ends up being something simple.  Speak to me Carter.   :ecomcity:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on February 25, 2015, 08:41:45 PM
Quote from: SixGun on February 25, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
I double checked the timing the first time it no fired. I will check again to be sure.   :read2:

It always ends up being something simple.  Speak to me Carter.   :ecomcity:

You have to speak softly... and occasionally yell and throw things... it works every time. DODGE WHISPERING 101
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on February 25, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
as long as the starter relay is making the engine turn don't worry about the connector being loose. should not stop it from running.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 06:45:39 PM
So I disconnected a spark plug wire and put a spark plug tester.  There is spark so can I assume the coil is good?  Gonna swap ballast resistor next.  Got real windy as the cold front was blowing in so I beat feet inside. Brrrrr.... :confused2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 07:30:09 PM
While trying to start Carter, I would turn the key sometimes and get nothing and other times it would crank.  Reading a lot of threads for no starts and some were ignition switch was bad. Could 2+2 equal 4?  Just $25. Hope its not too much of a pita.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on February 26, 2015, 07:46:30 PM
Quote from: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 06:45:39 PM
So I disconnected a spark plug wire and put a spark plug tester.  There is spark so can I assume the coil is good?  Gonna swap ballast resistor next.  Got real windy as the cold front was blowing in so I beat feet inside. Brrrrr.... :confused2:

This would indicate you have a fuel or timing issue maybe...have you checked compression?

Have you tried squirting some carb cleaner in the carb to see if it will at least do something ...pop sputter bang(watch your eyebrows) etc ...
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on February 26, 2015, 07:56:09 PM
Quote from: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 07:30:09 PM
While trying to start Carter, I would turn the key sometimes and get nothing and other times it would crank.  Reading a lot of threads for no starts and some were ignition switch was bad. Could 2+2 equal 4?  Just $25. Hope its not too much of a pita.

could be the switch ....could be the relay ... my first suspect is usually the starter relay on the fenderwell
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: ProjectPW on February 26, 2015, 07:46:30 PM
This would indicate you have a fuel or timing issue maybe...have you checked compression?

Have you tried squirting some carb cleaner in the carb to see if it will at least do something ...pop sputter bang(watch your eyebrows) etc ...

I tried starting fluid and it was a no go.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: ProjectPW on February 26, 2015, 07:56:09 PM
could be the switch ....could be the relay ... my first suspect is usually the starter relay on the fenderwell

The relay harness connector is loose.  I might using a pick to tighten up the little push  clips inside the plug.  If the switch doesn't do the trick, I'll head in that direction. I may have spare laying around but that push plug style I dunno.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on February 26, 2015, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 08:05:08 PM
I tried starting fluid and it was a no go.

And any compression testing??
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
Compression better be good. New rings and a fresh hone.   :thumbsup:

I've got a compression tester I can use to be sure.

Looked up taking out the ignition switch. Hardest part seems to be removing the steering wheel. No problemo. I ordered a switch from Oreillys, should be here in the a.m.  unfortunately, I'm working a mid tomorrow. It'll be dark when I get out. Daylight savings in a couple of weeks. Woohoo, I can't wait.  :sunny:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on February 26, 2015, 08:52:31 PM
Quote from: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
Compression better be good. New rings and a fresh hone.   :thumbsup:

I've got a compression tester I can use to be sure.

Looked up taking out the ignition switch. Hardest part seems to be removing the steering wheel. No problemo. I ordered a switch from Oreillys, should be here in the a.m.  unfortunately, I'm working a mid tomorrow. It'll be dark when I get out. Daylight savings in a couple of weeks. Woohoo, I can't wait.  :sunny:

Distributor 180 degrees off... that one will get you every time... I assume you had the valves cleaned up to go with those new rings
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 09:11:28 PM
No valve job or seals. We were pressed for time once we found out the block was cracked. The motor was a nonsmoking running engine of Ron's yellow submarine before he put a 360 in it. Pretty much a bottom end refresh and RV cam upgrade.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on February 26, 2015, 09:18:34 PM
i think you need to just play with the timing if you got spark. starter relay should not stop it from starting as long as it making the engine turn. i don't think your issue is the ignition switch since you got spark.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on February 26, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
I would agree with being 180* out, I did that on the 408 when I put it back in.

Its a much bigger PITA to rotate it after its in the engine bay than while on the engine stand.  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on February 27, 2015, 07:46:10 AM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on February 26, 2015, 09:18:34 PM
i think you need to just play with the timing if you got spark. starter relay should not stop it from starting as long as it making the engine turn. i don't think your issue is the ignition switch since you got spark.

Agreed.... The ignition switch is likely not the issue... however the starter relay will cause your intermittent no crank issue. Also I believe the ignition switch on the your RC is attached to the side of the column. I dont think it is necessary to pull the wheel... now on an older model the switch does require pulling the steering wheel.

edit..... if it is a non tilt column it has the old style switch, and will require pulling the steering wheel
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on February 27, 2015, 08:00:32 AM
Quote from: SixGun on February 26, 2015, 09:11:28 PM
No valve job or seals. We were pressed for time once we found out the block was cracked. The motor was a nonsmoking running engine of Ron's yellow submarine before he put a 360 in it. Pretty much a bottom end refresh and RV cam upgrade.

Ok that is probably good stuff. I would recommend pulling #1 spark plug and have a helper bump the engine a little at a time until you feel compression blow out the spark plug hole. Next Line up the timing mark on the harmonic balancer with the 0 mark on the timing cover. Then remove the distributor cap and make sure the rotor tip is pointed to the #1 spark plug wire on the cap.... It should be very close... if is way off you may have to restab the distributor. With careful eyeballing you can get the timing damn close using this method  :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on February 27, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
Quote from: ProjectPW on February 27, 2015, 08:00:32 AM
Ok that is probably good stuff. I would recommend pulling #1 spark plug and have a helper bump the engine a little at a time until you feel compression blow out the spark plug hole. Next Line up the timing mark on the harmonic balancer with the 0 mark on the timing cover. Then remove the distributor cap and make sure the rotor tip is pointed to the #1 spark plug wire on the cap.... It should be very close... if is way off you may have to restab the distributor. With careful eyeballing you can get the timing damn close using this method  :great:

Ernest thinks its the timing also and gave me nearly the same instructions. I'll triple check it but I dunno.  I've done the 180* off before and it tries to turn over and some back firing.  All it does now is crank continuously. No attempt to turn over. Also, it is the nontilt.  Haynes had a pretty good diagram and instructions.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 02, 2015, 09:19:32 AM
any luck?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 02, 2015, 12:10:21 PM
Family time  yesterday but hopefully get some time after work today.

BTW, starter relay wasn't it. It was cheap and now i have a spare. Weird 7 pin with no bolt. Never seen that kind before.  2 pins had nothing in the plug to connect to.   :017: :dontknow:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 02, 2015, 12:14:20 PM
excuses excuses... I was sick all weekend and had the boys... so yeah no playing for me either.

not to mention the ice and snow on the ground.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 02, 2015, 02:49:46 PM
i could have told you it was not the relay. i think i got 3 of those old starter relays in my toolbox that i will never use because i like the Bosch style ones better. they are more universal. the only difference is they don't have a second output to feed the coil 12v when cranking over the engine but my truck seems to start just fine without it even when it is very cold out.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 02, 2015, 05:57:38 PM
Ok OK, so I do have tilt steering on this truck afterall.  Argggg  :angry5:

Ordered new one and picked it up. Easy peasy to install but nothing. No click or anything  :wtf:

Noticed the rod is not in the switch so I reach up there and push it in.  Still nothing  :017:

Freezing my bacoonga off. Its getting dark and I smell dinner. This shit is gonna have to wait till morning.....again. :BangHead:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 02, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 02, 2015, 05:57:38 PM
Ok OK, so I do have tilt steering on this truck afterall.  Argggg  :angry5:

Ordered new one and picked it up. Easy peasy to install but nothing. No click or anything  :wtf:

Noticed the rod is not in the switch so I reach up there and push it in.  Still nothing  :017:

Freezing my bacoonga off. Its getting dark and I smell dinner. This shit is gonna have to wait till morning.....again. :BangHead:

The factory uses a zip tie wrapped around the column to secure the rod... the switch may need some adjustment on its mounting screws to make the rod engage the start position all the way.... I have even seen some aftermarket switches that need some adjustment with a dremel to allow enough adjustment
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 02, 2015, 09:15:10 PM
Thanks for the heads up.  :thumbsup:

I'll check that out in the daylight.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
i thought you had spark and the engine cranking anyways? it is just not firing up. why mess with the ignition switch if it is not your problem?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on March 02, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
i thought you had spark and the engine cranking anyways? it is just not firing up. why mess with the ignition switch if it is not your problem?

he said that sometimes it would not crank  :tard: .....
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
My ignition switch has been hit and miss from the get go.  Sometimes I'd turn the key and nothing and then sometimes it would crank. Had it on the back burner till I read this thread while researching ballast resistor issues. Several people suggested the ignition switch from their experience. Just running down the leads.
http://www.moparchat.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-800.html

First order business today is  :coffee2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
just bypass it with a remote start switch until you get it running  :laughing7:

good luck on getting it fixed today.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:08:38 AM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
just bypass it with a remote start switch until you get it running  :laughing7:

good luck on getting it fixed today.

Agreed... then you can crank the motor without a helper.... install button under the hood and forget about it... one day it might be helpful again  :thumbsup:

Worst case scenario is that you find out the starter is your problem  :evil6:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:08:38 AM

Worst case scenario is that you find out the starter is your problem  :evil6:

The person or the part?  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 03, 2015, 11:00:00 AM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
just bypass it with a remote start switch until you get it running  :laughing7:

good luck on getting it fixed today.
x3. brown wire at starter relay. i use to use mine all the time to remote start my truck when working under the hood. if you want to shut the truck off you unplug the ballast resister. using the brown wire also bypasses your neutral safety switch.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 05:36:57 PM
I actually have a tool with two alligator type clips with a thumb activated switch to use as an engine bay ignition.   :thumbsup:

Well, I pulled the new ignition switch and compared the two. The new one had a little plug in a hole. Looked kinda like a shipping plug. When I pulled it out the switch would activate.  Placed a call to Noah to be sure and gave me a few pointers. In it went with a zip tie and one adjustment and no more hit and miss. Unfortunately, no fire still. So i swapped coils, ballast resistor and coil wire after discovering a broken tab in distributor cap. Rechecked fuel, spark and fuses. When I first took engine out, i checked both the voltage regulator and ECU since there was gunk running under both. Apparently they've been changed before since they both have new looking epoxy underneath. Is there a test for them? Gonna research that next.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 03, 2015, 07:11:32 PM
i would personally not worry about the voltage regulator until the truck is running. i don't think there is a way to really test it without the truck running. i also don't think there is really any way to test the ecu. you can test the ground and power to it but i don't think you can test the ecu. as long as you got spark it should be working. also they may have not been replace. it don't get super hot up here but i sometimes find the old epoxy or whatever they used to seal up the backs will run.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
Replacement ECU's are only 20 bucks but is there a better box? The Mopar orange box is supposed to be the HP model but lots of guys dog them. Supposedly lots of quality issues.  There's a new Revonater that is supposed to be badass but I can't find a price anywhere. Not even on their site. 

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 09:03:26 PM
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-850003/overview/year/1976/make/dodge/model/ramcharger

but I don't think I would drop money on that if you have verified spark.

have you pulled the spark plug and verified TDC for cylinder #1 and re-verfied the distributor is stabbed correctly?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 03, 2015, 09:12:49 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
Replacement ECU's are only 20 bucks but is there a better box? The Mopar orange box is supposed to be the HP model but lots of guys dog them. Supposedly lots of quality issues.  There's a new Revonater that is supposed to be badass but I can't find a price anywhere. Not even on their site. 

Any suggestions?
ya i am pretty sure they are called msd ignition module :laughing7:.
http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD-Ignition/121/6425/10002/-1?parentProductId=#moreDetails
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
I was thinking of picking up another stock ecu just to be sure. I took mine off and added a ground wire to it. Did notice that the black wire on the harness plug is stretched tight and may be an issue.

I've got a piston stop I can use for finding tdc. Hopefully soon if the weather will hold out.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:19:13 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 09:03:26 PM

have you pulled the spark plug and verified TDC for cylinder #1 and re-verfied the distributor is stabbed correctly?

x2
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 09:20:13 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on March 03, 2015, 09:12:49 PM
ya i am pretty sure they are called msd ignition module :laughing7:.
http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD-Ignition/121/6425/10002/-1?parentProductId=#moreDetails

Stock=$20
Mopar orange=$43
MSD=$400
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 09:22:28 PM
well finding TDC is great, but you have to make sure its before compression not exhaust stroke... otherwise your still 180* out.

Like Noah said, remove the plug and find out when you get close to TDC then feel with your finger if its pushing air out.

Thats the only sure fire way to know you have it right.

Like I said, I had that issue on my 408 when I first put it into the truck. took me a bit but I got it fixed. Those dizzy's on the magnum's are a PITA to deal with way back there.

If you have fuel and spark and no bang, good chance you have the dizzy 180* out.

I am not sure anyone has asked this yet... have you pulled the dizzy and rotated it 180* yet? just to try?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
I was thinking of picking up another stock ecu just to be sure. I took mine off and added a ground wire to it. Did notice that the black wire on the harness plug is stretched tight and may be an issue.

I've got a piston stop I can use for finding tdc. Hopefully soon if the weather will hold out.

no piston stop necessary.. pull the plug and stick your finger over the hole.. as sson as you feel pressure stop and use a socket to rotate the crankshaft to tdc on the harmonic balancer... remove distributor cap and check for correct alignment of the rotor with #1 cylinder plug/wire
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:26:50 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 09:20:13 PM
Stock=$20
Mopar orange=$43
MSD=$400

I run a Mopar orange box on everything with good success ... good ground is the key to a good ignition system (ancient mopar secret)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
Quote from: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:22:58 PM
no piston stop necessary.. pull the plug and stick your finger over the hole.. as sson as you feel pressure stop and use a socket to rotate the crankshaft to tdc on the harmonic balancer... remove distributor cap and check for correct alignment of the rotor with #1 cylinder plug/wire

Noah I think he is gonna make one of us go down there and help get this thing alive again.... While I am sure i could manage a spring break trip down there, I am not sure my boys and parents would be as excited as we are  :laughing7:

Plus after looking a bit for sea world etc, there are not many hotel rooms left.

If i thought I could manage any work on trucks this spring break, I would be all over it.

But worst case maybe have to do a quick trip the 21st if he has not got it figured out by then. Always good to sneak out of town for a bit.  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
Noah I think he is gonna make one of us go down there and help get this thing alive again.... While I am sure i could manage a spring break trip down there, I am not sure my boys and parents would be as excited as we are  :laughing7:

Plus after looking a bit for sea world etc, there are not many hotel rooms left.

If i thought I could manage any work on trucks this spring break, I would be all over it.

But worst case maybe have to do a quick trip the 21st if he has not got it figured out by then. Always good to sneak out of town for a bit.  :13:


ahhhh... BBq at Richard's house....  :dance:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
maybe we can even see the mysterious 76 RC trail rig.......
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 03, 2015, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 09:20:13 PM
Stock=$20
Mopar orange=$43
MSD=$400
i guess that is if you get the full kit but might be cheaper than throwing a lot of money at modules, ballast resisters, coils and old wiring. could try testing all the old stuff first but it just seems like you are throwing money at it with not much result. i do agree with the others tho that it does seem like it is probably a timing issue of some sort
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: ProjectPW on March 03, 2015, 09:30:48 PM

ahhhh... BBq at Richard's house....  :dance:

Should have been here yesterday. Yolanda made fajitas.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 03, 2015, 10:19:09 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 10:17:03 PM
Should have been here yesterday. Yolanda made fajitas.  :headbang:

now you tell us!!! :angry4:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 10:22:29 PM
Like Noah says, always an open Invitation.  :hello:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 03, 2015, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on March 03, 2015, 09:50:20 PM
i guess that is if you get the full kit but might be cheaper than throwing a lot of money at modules, ballast resisters, coils and old wiring. could try testing all the old stuff first but it just seems like you are throwing money at it with not much result. i do agree with the others tho that it does seem like it is probably a timing issue of some sort

The ignition switch did fix an issue. Most guys mention keeping a spare ecu anyways in the tool box. Spare starter relay and ballast resistor the same.  I had an extra coil and resistor already to test with but the relay was something I've never seen before with 7 blades. For $10 I got a spare.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 03, 2015, 10:59:16 PM
who needs a spare starter relay when you got a screw driver or wench? could also use a piece of wire. i could understand keeping the others as a spare if think one might go bad. at least your not installing gm ignition parts on it. i just like testing testing stuff before spending a lot of money trying to fix an issue that may not even exist.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 04, 2015, 08:04:29 AM
If the rain stays away, I'll hopefully get to the distributor today after work and hopefully I'm wrong. I just want to get this bad boy going and move on to other issues and other truck.  My concern with the ecu is whether or not it there is enough spark. 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 04, 2015, 08:42:19 AM
if there is not enough spark tho that could be a miss adjusted air gap between the pickup sensor and reluctor in the distributor.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: taz_man440 on March 04, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
That's one reason I love the MSD on my ramcharger... Hot, ground, & ignition wires.. Good to go
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 04, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Brrrrr...that cold front is blowing in. Supposed to be 28* by morning.  If this wind keeps up the wind chill will be a killer like last week.

Good news is that the distributor was 180* off. 

Ummm...bad news is that it is still a no start. Same thing....cranks with no attempt to turn over or any backfiring.

Since I kinda rushed at the end and it was getting dark, I will double check my work when its warmer and calm outside.  Thinking of using my Blaster coil from the Ram and see what happens. Also gonna change the fuel filter and see what that does.  Maybe junk in the lines got jammed in it.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 05, 2015, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: SixGun on March 04, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Brrrrr...that cold front is blowing in. Supposed to be 28* by morning.  If this wind keeps up the wind chill will be a killer like last week.

Good news is that the distributor was 180* off. 

Ummm...bad news is that it is still a no start. Same thing....cranks with no attempt to turn over or any backfiring.

Since I kinda rushed at the end and it was getting dark, I will double check my work when its warmer and calm outside.  Thinking of using my Blaster coil from the Ram and see what happens. Also gonna change the fuel filter and see what that does.  Maybe junk in the lines got jammed in it.

did you try a bit of carb clean or starting fluid? much easier.... :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 10:27:52 AM
When I first tried to fire it up way back when I thought i had a fuel problem.  I wonder if crud jammed up my filter. Maybe its not getting enough fuel.  Im just surprised that it hadn't flooded out with all the pumping and cranking. I keep thinking about Will's truck when he tried to fire it up. U have another filter so it should be an easy task.

BTW, what's up with all this cold weather. Is Santa Claus coming to town?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 05, 2015, 01:21:27 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 10:27:52 AM
When I first tried to fire it up way back when I thought i had a fuel problem.  I wonder if crud jammed up my filter. Maybe its not getting enough fuel.  Im just surprised that it hadn't flooded out with all the pumping and cranking. I keep thinking about Will's truck when he tried to fire it up. U have another filter so it should be an easy task.

BTW, what's up with all this cold weather. Is Santa Claus coming to town?
...

your question will be answered by spraying something in the carb and then trying to start it again. Also you can look down the throat of the carb and see the accelerator pump squirters shoot when applying throttle.... no squirty = no fuely  :thumbsup:

If it has got fuel in the carb you have likely flooded the engine... remove spark plugs and allow to dry overnight.... a couple of drops of atf in the cylinders will help bring up compression when going back together... that is also a good time for a compression test
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 05, 2015, 01:46:54 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 04, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Good news is that the distributor was 180* off. 


Glad to hear you made some progress. Its like 31 and snow on the ground here right now... and its spring break next week... what gives?

This weekend is suppose to warm up some, I am hoping to get to do some wrenching myself.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: taz_man440 on March 05, 2015, 02:30:54 PM
My truck from best I can figure was a dirt dobber got in the fule line & it blowed the filter apart & pushed the dirt into the inlet filter of the quadrajunk. What carb are you running? Have you pulled the fuel line off & run it into a bottle to make sure your pumping fuel to the carb?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 03:02:44 PM
Quote from: taz_man440 on March 05, 2015, 02:30:54 PM
My truck from best I can figure was a dirt dobber got in the fule line & it blowed the filter apart & pushed the dirt into the inlet filter of the quadrajunk. What carb are you running? Have you pulled the fuel line off & run it into a bottle to make sure your pumping fuel to the carb?

I pulled the line where it attaches before the filter a while back and fuel came out.  When i pulled the line at the back to put in electric pump, the same happened. Right now i can touch fuel in the carb and see wetness. When I touch it, I can smell gas.  Tried looking in carb for squirting but couldn't see that happening.

I am running the later model Competition AFB.  I rebuilt it and remember a screen in the inlet.  I'll need to check that too.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 05, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 03:02:44 PM
I rebuilt it and remember a screen in the inlet.

If your anything like me with rebuilding carbs... that could be your whole problem right there  :laughing7:  :violent1:  :tard:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 05:18:57 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 05, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
If your anything like me with rebuilding carbs... that could be your whole problem right there  :laughing7:  :violent1:  :tard:

Lol anything is possible.

Changed fuel filter but nothing stands out. It blew out clear no problem. Checked for screen in carb inlet and there's not one. Cranked with hose at carb disconnected and its pumping gas. Tried starting it on its own and not happening.  Sprayed starting fluid and it tries to turn over. Gonna put blaster coil on and see if that makes a difference. 

Getting close but no cigar.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 05, 2015, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 05:18:57 PM
Lol anything is possible.

Changed fuel filter but nothing stands out. It blew out clear no problem. Checked for screen in carb inlet and there's not one. Cranked with hose at carb disconnected and its pumping gas. Tried starting it on its own and not happening.  Sprayed starting fluid and it tries to turn over. Gonna put blaster coil on and see if that makes a difference. 

Getting close but no cigar.

Did you try talking real nice to Carter? Dodges don't do well with hostility .... :ecomcity:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
Hell I'd give Carter a BJ right now if I thought it would help.  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 05, 2015, 05:40:53 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
Hell I'd give Carter a BJ right now if I thought it would help.  :laughing7:

:sign0137:  :puke:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 05:47:30 PM
Ben & Jerry ice cream, sheesh what were you thinking about.   :040:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 05, 2015, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 05:47:30 PM
Ben & Jerry ice cream, sheesh what were you thinking about.   :040:

HA!  :laughing4:

Nice, Very Nice
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 06:39:34 PM
Well partial success. Got it to turn on with starting fluid, msd blaster coil and with gas pedal mashed to the floor.  It stayed running at a very low rpm for like 5 minutes.   I was able to restart it several times on its own without the starting fluid the same way. I couldn't let off the pedal at all. Gonna have to play with the idle and timing using my trusty assistant, Yolanda. 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 05, 2015, 06:41:34 PM
 :headbang:

Thats good progress.  :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 06, 2015, 12:14:20 AM
good to hear that you finally got the thing running
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 06, 2015, 07:09:21 AM
Quote from: SixGun on March 05, 2015, 06:39:34 PM
Well partial success. Got it to turn on with starting fluid, msd blaster coil and with gas pedal mashed to the floor.  It stayed running at a very low rpm for like 5 minutes.   I was able to restart it several times on its own without the starting fluid the same way. I couldn't let off the pedal at all. Gonna have to play with the idle and timing using my trusty assistant, Yolanda.


Awesome  :great: ...  if it isn't backfiring through the carb try to advance the timing a bit
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: ProjectPW on March 06, 2015, 07:09:21 AM

Awesome  :great: ...  if it isn't backfiring through the carb try to advance the timing a bit

Clockwise isn't it?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 06, 2015, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
Clockwise isn't it?

counter clockwise when looking at the top of the dizzy will advance it
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Ok thanks
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 06, 2015, 01:10:00 PM
my answer is whichever way makes it run better. :13:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 06, 2015, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 06, 2015, 01:10:00 PM
my answer is whichever way makes it run better. :13:
x2 on this. when i swap distributors i usually keep turning it till it runs good enough and then set the timing
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 06, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 06, 2015, 01:10:00 PM
my answer is whichever way makes it run better. :13:

My Answer is where ever Noah sets it at  :tongue3:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 03:28:06 PM
https://cloud.real.com/s/8kA6oV
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 06, 2015, 03:35:28 PM
it lives, how much ice cream did it take?  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 06, 2015, 03:43:57 PM
so whats next on your list now that you got it running? sounds like it is running pretty good
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 03:48:20 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 06, 2015, 03:35:28 PM
it lives, how much ice cream did it take?  :laughing7:

Umm...me and Carter just stopped the ice cream man. Its bonding time. Lol
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on March 06, 2015, 03:43:57 PM
so whats next on your list now that you got it running? sounds like it is running pretty good

Well, buy another truck of course.   :tongue3:

Seriously, swap out mufflers since these tractor mufflers are kinda getting soft, an alignment, swap rear axle for 9-1/4 with LS and 3.55 gear, and get state inspection.

Then move on to the 76 RC.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 06, 2015, 04:07:07 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on March 06, 2015, 03:35:28 PM
it lives, how much ice cream did it take?  :laughing7:

:laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 06, 2015, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 03:55:22 PM
Well, buy another truck of course.   :tongue3:

Seriously, swap out mufflers since these tractor mufflers are kinda getting soft, an alignment, swap rear axle for 9-1/4 with LS and 3.55 gear, and get state inspection.

Then move on to the 76 RC.
lol. sweet. should be fairly smooth sailing from here tho since you should be fairly familiar with all the other work.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 04:32:22 PM
Setting the timing is tough. Its a new cam and I tried to set it at 12* btdc like the sticker but it backfired.  Runs nice right now but I can't even see the timing mark.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 06, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 04:32:22 PM
Setting the timing is tough. Its a new cam and I tried to set it at 12* btdc like the sticker but it backfired.  Runs nice right now but I can't even see the timing mark.

If you can get it on the road, take it to the Dodge Whisper Aka Noah. he can get it dialed in real quick. No Ice Cream Required
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 05:10:43 PM
He was right. Advance the timing did the trick.  :thumbsup:

Thanks everyone :hello:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 06, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 05:10:43 PM
He was right. Advance the timing did the trick.  :thumbsup:

Thanks everyone :hello:

So when do we get to see you doing burn outs?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
Just talked Ernest. He said, "Good job, but how much did you pay a mechanic to do it for you?"

I told him all it cost was ice cream. Lol
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 06, 2015, 08:50:05 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 06, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
Just talked Ernest. He said, "Good job, but how much did you pay a mechanic to do it for you?"

I told him all it cost was ice cream. Lol

Sounds great... I will have your bill ready  :tongue3: .... that will be an awesome machine soon  :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on March 09, 2015, 11:52:04 PM
I'm still waiting on burn out pictures  :steeringwheel:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 10, 2015, 08:31:00 AM
Ha ha...video evidence is to avoided.  Shhhh....he's a sleeper.

Still some work to be done to be roadworthy. Ignition goodies are on the FedEx welcome wagon as we speak.  Gotta put the radio, fuse block and tuck the wires back where they belong too. Alignment and inspection too.

I don't for see any burnouts with these tall highway gears.  Still need to get the 9-1/4 under it after an overhaul and crush sleeve eliminator.  Noah are you ready for a little axle work?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 10, 2015, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: SixGun on March 10, 2015, 08:31:00 AM
Ha ha...video evidence is to avoided.  Shhhh....he's a sleeper.

Still some work to be done to be roadworthy. Ignition goodies are on the FedEx welcome wagon as we speak.  Gotta put the radio, fuse block and tuck the wires back where they belong too. Alignment and inspection too.

I don't for see any burnouts with these tall highway gears.  Still need to get the 9-1/4 under it after an overhaul and crush sleeve eliminator.  Noah are you ready for a little axle work?

Bring it... you have bearings and seals to go with the crush sleeve eliminator?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 10, 2015, 09:16:19 AM
Seals yes, bearings no. Started collecting parts for rear 9-1/4 for 76 RC.  The one for Carter is a 93 axle and 76 RC is using a 91 axle. I figure seals should be the same.  Also, I believe they both are limited slip.  That's rebuildable also if I'm not mistaken.

I'll get my shopping list in order. 
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 10, 2015, 09:38:43 AM
Quote from: SixGun on March 10, 2015, 09:16:19 AM
Seals yes, bearings no. Started collecting parts for rear 9-1/4 for 76 RC.  The one for Carter is a 93 axle and 76 RC is using a 91 axle. I figure seals should be the same.  Also, I believe they both are limited slip.  That's rebuildable also if I'm not mistaken.

I'll get my shopping list in order.

bearings are certainly recommended if we are going in  (but not necessarily required).... if the axle is tight you probly should leave it alone lol.... if it has some slop in it, the pinion and carrier bearings are a must.

the limited slip is probably buildable but you need to know what kind it is, and it may not really be that necessary....

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/spz-58026/overview/ .... just plan on one of those.... and you should pull the axles to inspect them for wear on the wheel bearings/shafts before you bring it....
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 10, 2015, 09:51:57 AM
I was just looking at that exact same kit on Randys R&P.  Summit is cheaper by $50- wow.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 10, 2015, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: SixGun on March 10, 2015, 09:51:57 AM
I was just looking at that exact same kit on Randys R&P.  Summit is cheaper by $50- wow.

yep Randy's is high unless you are buying from a shop...then they are still probably higher lol
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 12, 2015, 08:16:50 PM
Sweet, just picked up an 85 FSM from eBay for $18.   :read2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 24, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Finished putting in the new ignition parts today.  Was getting a little frustrated with a no start at first.  After a lot of back trackin, I got out the new FSM and laid it next to the instructions for the new ecu harness.  Turns out I spliced in a green unused wire instead of the needed blue wire.   :violent1:

I also spent some bonding time with my new for Christmas Dremel tool.  Made short work cutting out the shallow cup holders on the console. Then I installed the deep cups I found at the JY.  Also attached the aftermarket cup holder to the back of the console for any back seat passengers.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on March 24, 2015, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: SixGun on March 24, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
Finished putting in the new ignition parts today.  Was getting a little frustrated with a no start at first.  After a lot of back trackin, I got out the new FSM and laid it next to the instructions for the new ecu harness.  Turns out I spliced in a green unused wire instead of the needed blue wire.   :violent1:


You NEED to know how that wiring works... that is the number one reason I recommended the new harness... in a pinch It is very easy to test a properly wired Chrysler ignition system  :thumbsup:

Glad to hear you got it sorted out... I know how frustrating no starts can be  :violent1:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 24, 2015, 09:30:43 PM
Fortunately, I left all the old pieces in place and one by one found out which wire was not allowing it to start.  I really thought it was the plug with said wire until it dawned on me about the green/blue switcharoo.   :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on April 09, 2015, 08:01:13 AM
So I tried to fit the roll bar through the back hatch but it was too wide by inches. So I cut the side box brackets off and ground them down. The bar is a 3 pc from a 70's RC. I had a revelation with the lower floor behind the front seats. After measuring, realized it should through the passenger door. With little effort, it was a tight squeeze between the body panels.  The carpet has perforated circular cutouts that doesn't fit over the square mounting brackets. So does anyone have a pic how it looks in an 80's RC.  Above the carpet or underneath?  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: taz_man440 on April 09, 2015, 10:15:57 AM
Carpet?? What's that?  Lol.  That's the first thing I rip out... Can't hose it out with carpet in it...
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on April 09, 2015, 11:18:34 AM
 :laughing4:

I never rip out clean carpet if I don't have to.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on April 09, 2015, 11:45:29 AM
i would guess if there is a circular cutout in the carpet you are suppose to bolt the cage to the floor and put the carpet back on top of the mounting plate.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on April 09, 2015, 02:58:55 PM
I'm just gonna c clamp it.  :violent1:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 07, 2015, 09:41:22 PM
what's the word here? you driving carter yet or is his new perminant parking spot just been relocated from the previous owner to you?  :laughing7:  :headbang:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2015, 08:40:45 AM
Transmission is no bueno.   :(
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 08, 2015, 08:44:33 AM
well dang it!!!

that means we need to trailer it Ernest so he can rebuild it huh?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2015, 12:32:39 PM
Shit no, i want it driveable some time this year.  :laughing7:

I have a guy local. Trying to finish up this deck by the 18th for our anniversary.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 08, 2015, 12:45:23 PM
I got my engine and transmission done in record time... I don't know what your issue is  :dontknow:  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2015, 03:03:46 PM
Simple.....money  :-\
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 08, 2015, 03:06:03 PM
I think it has to do with timing... he now works for himself and has his own shop.

He did get your 318 rebuild in 3 days... and I bet that was a long hard weekend.

that tranny should be pretty simple and easy to rebuild. hopefully it goes good.

You need to borrow a transmission jack?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2015, 03:22:17 PM
The hardest part is pulling it in the driveway in the hot sun. Easy part is the rebuild because someone else is doing it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 08, 2015, 03:32:19 PM
yeah that is true.... thats why mine was in the garage ... it helped a little lol
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 08, 2015, 03:33:08 PM
maybe when I go down to Noah's you can borrow the cummins and the trailer and  bring it down and pull it on his lift? lol

its way easier to pull when your not on your back... I can say that from experience.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 08, 2015, 06:40:09 PM
Hopefully, by then, I'll have it pulled. Just got a lot going on right now. Thanks, don't think I haven't thought about it. 

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on June 08, 2015, 07:09:56 PM
I understand lots going on... I am still trying to finish my wood floors and many other projects.

Good luck on getting it all out and done.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 13, 2015, 03:50:49 PM
Went back and forth on what to run for a tranny. Rebuild the A999, put in an A500 or A518 for the O/D or go with a A727. Well today I picked up a 727 at the JY for fairly cheap. Of course it will be rebuilt. It was in an 86 D250 with a 360. So I still need a converter. Open for suggestions. 318 4bbl RV cam 3.55 gears. Pretty much just local driving.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on June 14, 2015, 09:24:23 AM
Since you are running 3.55 gears a stock replacement "high stall" converter will work well without excessive slippage when cruising and give you some punch off the line. Your tranny rebuild shop can supply a good reman converter for about 80-100$... Part number at oreilly's for a converter is CR10h (high stall) or CR10L (low stall)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on June 14, 2015, 09:35:34 AM
Another tip is to install an upgraded servo like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BILLET-INTER-SUPER-SERVO-KIT-HD-DODGE-TF8-46RE-47RE-48RE-727-518-618-UPGRADE-/330681313546?hash=item4cfe24690a&vxp=mtr

It corrects the problem of the stock servo flipping in the bore and also moves the sealing surface farther up the bore where there is no wear on the case.

Also a replacement pan for a 2000ish truck will add some capacity and a drain plug:

http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-265-827-Transmission-Pan/dp/B009T4M1OG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434292443&sr=8-1&keywords=265-827
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on June 14, 2015, 09:38:11 AM
I would also recommend using ATF+4 fluid with the fresh rebuild.... dex/merc will work but that shit is for furds & chebbys .... if it doesn't leak its worth using better fluids  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 14, 2015, 10:10:19 AM
Cool, thanks for all the info.   :occasion14:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 14, 2015, 10:18:16 AM
Should I assume that this 727 has a lockup converter? It looks like to me that 67-81 are the non- lockup.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on June 14, 2015, 12:18:38 PM
It is highly unlikely it is lockup... Pull the converter and look at the very end of the input shaft. If it has splines that do not go all the way to the tip it is a lockup.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 14, 2015, 06:03:38 PM
Splines to the end - non lockup.  24 splines.   :icon_salut:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on June 17, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Nice double rainbow after the rain today.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 14, 2015, 05:02:57 PM
Another piece of the puzzle is done.
Went with a 727 out of a 1986 D250.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on July 16, 2015, 07:39:04 PM
Awesome  :thumbsup:
Are you going to install it your self at your house? Or at a shop?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 16, 2015, 10:04:23 PM
Gonna be a driveway install. Just ordered a deep pan from Mancini.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: jldunahoe on July 20, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Is Mancini a good place to get parts


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Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 21, 2015, 05:13:29 AM
I don't recall ordering parts from them before but they have been in the Mopar business for a long time. Pretty similar to the MP pan but I like the location of the drain plug and the price.  I usually go with Amazon, Jegs or Summit for the free shipping but with Mancini's price it about evens out.  They have a good reputation so I'm not worried.

http://www.manciniracing.com/tranpan.html
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 21, 2015, 04:52:26 PM
I disconnected and drained the tranny. While waiting for the trans deep pan to arrive, I decided to fab a transmission cradle to use with my 3 ton floor jack. I used a heavy gauge broiler pan that has been laying around forever and drilled a hole for the lift saddle bolt.  I used the old trans pan as a template to cut out the odd shape of the 727 pan. The rolled edge of the broiler pan will keep it from sliding off. I used an old camshaft sprocket for added support under the broiler pan. Here's some pics.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 21, 2015, 05:09:15 PM
if your really bored install the tranny with the old pan and just swap it when th new one arrives. Just because the tranny is in does not mean you have to put fluid in it. :headbang:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 21, 2015, 05:20:03 PM
i agree with Ryan. you should put the transmission in there with the old pan and just swap the when you get the new one. then that way there is no way you can damage your new pan.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 21, 2015, 06:06:38 PM
True but it is a pain in the rump with the exhaust crossover pipe in the way.

Not to mention that the sun was hovering near 100* this afternoon and TDC after 2pm. 

Now that the backyard is in the shade, its time to mow the grass.   :sunny:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 21, 2015, 06:17:52 PM
don't you have to drop the exhaust cross over pipe to install the transmission or starter? it is only 4 bolts and easily removed plus there should be tons of shade under Carter :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 21, 2015, 07:23:33 PM
Didn't have to drop the exhaust. The passenger side exhaust pipe has a weird bend where it could have gone straight. I figured it was to drop the tranny. After I slide the trans cross member back,  I just have to pull the trans back  a little and then straight down. With my new fangled cradle it should be a breeze, uh...I hope.   :dontknow:

The shade was pretty cool under the truck. It was only 90* under there.  :lol_hitting:

BTW, is the flexplate a different size on a 727 vs 904? I didn't grab it at the JY. I might need to make a trip back. Kickdown linkage too. I have a set for the 76 RC I could steal for now. Took some measurements for the driveshaft.  727 is 4" longer and the 9-1/4 is 1" shorter surprisingly.  Driveshafts at the JY are all trashed from forklifts unfortunately.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on July 21, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
lol it was about 90* the other day when i was changing my rad. i kind of liked it. the only thing that kind of sucked was the 60% humidity.

i think the stock kick down linkage that was on Carter should work with any of the transmissions. i am pretty sure the location of the kick down lever on the transmission should be the same.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 23, 2015, 08:48:58 AM
welcome to the needing to spend $$ on new driveshafts club.  :laughing7:

Its an expensive club to be in, so I have been told. Once I save more money I will let you know. I am still saving money to buy yokes so I can measure for the driveshafts.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 23, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
I'm gonna try having the driveshaft cut down to size.  I need a yoke too. Its definately another trip to the JY. Drink water and stay motivated.  Pans came in. Me likey, but the shipping was $21 for two deep pan kits from FedEx.  Yikes  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 24, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
 :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 24, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: SixGun on July 24, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
:great:

just to make sure... you know it's not installed in that orientation ?

:headbang: :laughing4:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 24, 2015, 10:43:27 PM
Now you tell me.  :violent1:

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 25, 2015, 09:45:14 AM
Sometimes awesome deals just fall into your lap at the right time.  Went to pick up some gloves and rags at Harbor Freight and found this $145 transmission jack in the clearance section for under a hundred bucks.  Was an open no box item but complete. With the 20% off coupon, it was only $74.  Wow, almost half price!!

http://m.harborfreight.com/800-lb-low-lift-transmission-jack-69685.html
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 27, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
Very nice... now is it installed yet?  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 27, 2015, 10:02:59 PM
Oh yeah its in.  :035:

Good thing I went with the Mancini deep pan with a bottom drain plug.  Don't know if the front drain would have worked like on the MP pan. Tight fit with the crossover pipe there.

Off tomorrow so I'm heading to JY for yoke. Still need to check the 9-1/4 at mother-in-laws for limited slip. Better for the street. Locker for open diff is cheaper on 76 RC.  If so, ive gotta switch them. Then measure for driveshaft shortening. Looks like I'm cutting 3" but I just want to be sure.


While at HF tools, I picked up a telescoping electric chainsaw for a song. Making short work of my 12' hedges. What a fun toy.  I've been using a hand saw and ladder up till now. Stopped when I ran into this bad boy. YIK !!
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 27, 2015, 10:07:38 PM
lol its just a "little" zipper spider. whats the matter? lol

so back to Carter... fluid in? bolted up? test drove? we need details!!!
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 27, 2015, 11:10:41 PM
Quote from: rjtx667 on July 27, 2015, 10:07:38 PM
so back to Carter... fluid in? bolted up? test drove? we need details!!!

Need trans yoke, DS shortened, with no yoke it just pours out the tail.
Hmmmm   :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 27, 2015, 11:46:05 PM
what? you have not made it to the junk yard yet? slacker lol

I have not ordered my parts yet either.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 28, 2015, 08:17:30 AM
I tell you, with this intense heat lately, I've been taking siestas in the middle of the day.  From 2-6 I'm inside pretty much.  I was wearing shorts the day I installed the tranny.  My legs are still sunburned.

Yeeouch  :sunny:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on July 28, 2015, 08:19:29 AM
so your saying your not a redneck, your a red leg?  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 28, 2015, 09:57:34 AM
 :laughing4:
Apparently this week I am
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectM880 on July 29, 2015, 12:47:33 PM
So when do we get to see burn out videos???
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on July 29, 2015, 02:21:05 PM
The bushings have already been burned out.  :confused2:

So sorry Eric- san :violent5:

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 01, 2015, 12:07:55 PM
So here's where I am stumped. If I let it sit several days, I have to crank it quite a bit to get it started or I can use starter fluid and save myself a lot of time.  I don't want to have to carry starter fluid with me all the time. Also, after it warms up and I happen to turn it off, 2 things happen.  It cranks like the timing is off. Kinda like wuh..wuh...wuh initially.  Cranks normal after a few tries.  Heres the second part.  It will not restart on its own while hot.  Maybe timing which is all guess work because of the new cam. Or can it be the old electric pump going bad and not allowing the new mechical pump to suck through it? Maybe vapor lock? I followed the 45* instructions when mounting it.  Or worst of all, could it be the ghost of the original owner preventing me from driving it?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 01, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Just in case, I ordered a new Holley mighty mite electric fuel pump to get it on the way.  It is identical to the pump I have on there.  If it turns out to not be the pump I have a spare for the 76 RC. I am using it as a primer for the mechanical pump.

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_pumps_regulators_and_filters/fuel_pumps/carbureted_electric_fuel_pumps/parts/12-427 (https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_pumps_regulators_and_filters/fuel_pumps/carbureted_electric_fuel_pumps/parts/12-427)
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 01, 2015, 02:58:35 PM
well i am almost certain most people say not to run a mechanical and electric fuel pump together. it can cause issues. also have you checked fuel pressure with it running? also do you got the return line hooked up to the fuel filter? i know i was having issues with too much fuel being returned to the tank even with a brand new fuel filter. blocked it and my issue was solved and fuel pressure stayed where it should when running
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 01, 2015, 05:06:41 PM
Yes I have the return line hooked up.

Thinking about disconnecting one pump and then the other to hopefully isolate which one may be the issue.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 01, 2015, 05:42:03 PM
i would just start by checking fuel pressure and seeing what it says. having the return line disconnected helps keep the fuel pressure at the carb for a bit longer. i know with my return line hooked up it would drop instantly but with it plugged it will just sit there for a long while. i also had tried a brand new filter but it still had the same issue. too much fuel was allowed to go back to the tank
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 01, 2015, 06:04:19 PM
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/658318/1.html
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on September 03, 2015, 07:12:03 AM
you need to get the timing set .... also you may have the float level a bit low... I would also recommend some sort of insulator between the carb and intake as the heat will tend to boil the fuel after you turn it off (seen it) ...I have had good luck with as little as a 1/2" spacer made of phenolic or plastic

sounds like I may have to come take a look, and do some whispering to Mr Carter  :035:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 03, 2015, 12:09:00 PM
I've read about the fuel boiling off on some research. I'm using a 91 TBI spacer already. I rebuilt the carb to specs with the kit.   Electric pump will be here Friday. If early enough, will install that afternoon. May just need an exorcism but a whisper is OK with me.  :great:

As for the timing, I've been reading about phasing a camshaft with a degree wheel. I would really like to have a set point to time it to. I have an old MP degree wheel and a dial indicator with magnet laying around somewhere if I could ever figure out how to do this. :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 04, 2015, 06:00:36 PM
Parts  :035:

Fuel pump came in late this afternoon and I picked up a 3/4" carb insulator adapter here locally. It has the phenolic center and aluminum spacer.

Phuukarama its HOT outside.  :sunny:
Gonna start on this first thing in the morning when its nice and cool.  :toothy9:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 05, 2015, 05:54:38 PM
 OK so I installed the carb insolater adapter and unhooked the mechanical fuel pump. Kept the old electric fuel pump and gave it a shot. Wouldn't start on its own but did with starting fluid. Barely ran and kept dying. Figured old electric was dead so I installed the new electric and still did the same. I even turn up the idle to maybe compensate for the adapter but no difference. So now I wonder if what Mat said about the return line was correct?  Next shot will be will an old style fuel filter and connect the return line into the charcoal canister like a vent. That's it for today, I've got dinner plans.  :dance:

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 05, 2015, 07:14:42 PM
i don't think hooking the return line to the charcoal canister would be a good idea or really do anything other than possibly fill your charcoal canister with fuel. as far as the filter goes i am just going on my experience. i have pretty much just had it with the stock style return filter. going return less from now on on any carbed engines. i installed a fuel pressure gauge on my 81 and it showed lower pressure with quick pressure loss with the return line hooked up. with it disconnected the fuel pressure was sitting a lot more steady around the 6 or so psi that it should be at with a lot less pressure loss.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 05, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
I bought an elbow fuel line that connects to an AFB with a banjo bolt and has a port for a fuel pressure gauge. Just need to find a cheap gauge and a hunk of fuel line. Also picked up a fuel filter w/o the return line. So did you cap the return line to the tank? Why do you think it would suck fuel out? Wouldn't it just vent into the charcoal canister?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 05, 2015, 11:30:18 PM
oh i thought you meant the return line on the filter lol. ya i guess you could hook the return line that goes to the tank to the charcoal canister.  the one on my truck just sits there. i don't have a charcoal canister on my 81 tho.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 13, 2015, 08:41:41 PM
Edit: I accidentally posted this for the Ram earler today.

Well the removal of the return line looks promising. It started on the first crank. Fuel pressure was fluctuating around 6-7 psi I believe.  I say that because the line going into the junction was dripping gas and I hurriedly shut it down and dumped a cup of water all over that shit. Phew...I dodged that bullet. I need to get one size up hose clamps. When I rerouted the lines, I went with fuel injection line which is a lil thicker and my FI clamps pinched the hose.

Getting closer  :035:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 15, 2015, 06:05:49 PM
Stumped again  :017:

No more fuel leak and a no start again. I'm using a see through filter and its full of fuel. Fuel pressure gauge shows 6.5 psi. Nozzles in the carb are not shooting a full stream. Maybe Teflon tape got sucked in??

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 15, 2015, 08:35:15 PM
are you sure you got spark? just may want to confirm it before blaming the carb.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 15, 2015, 09:09:31 PM
Today when I would pump the throttle linkage on the carb only drops or nothing would come out of the nozzles. If the carbs floats are primed, shouldn't they shoot a shot of fuel?  Besides, I haven't changed any settings except for fresh thread tape and new clamps.

Boggles the mind and really upsets me. That's why I step away sometimes, before I go postal with my big assed crescent wrench on this bastard.   :angry4:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 16, 2015, 11:15:02 AM
you should have something come out. have you tried starting fluid? would probably be a lot easier to tell if something is clogged or not working right once you got the engine running. also isn't there a fuel filter on the carbs fuel inlet?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 16, 2015, 03:30:01 PM
You talking about that screen. Good point, I'll have to check that. I ran out of starting fluid as luck would have it. That's how much I've used it.

Them nickels and dimes are starting to add up. :BangHead:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 16, 2015, 04:08:25 PM
hopefully it is something simple like that. i think the screen should be fine enough to catch any Teflon tape that might have got in.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 16, 2015, 04:32:01 PM
That's if its in there. I can't remember. :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 16, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
Picked up some starting fluid. It starts nearly every time.  So I start playing with the timing.  Counter clockwise it can almost start on its own but stalls out in gear when I try to give it gas. Clockwise sounds a lot stronger but will not start on its own.  Played with it so much that I can't find my baseline. Chalk up another depressing day.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 16, 2015, 07:56:37 PM
are you sure you are getting a good spark? did you ever check the gap between the reluctor and pickup sensor in the distributor when you had the engine apart? i am just wondering since with all the testing you probably should have had your engine running long enough that the carb should have been primed and warm enough that it shouldn't have had any issue restarting on the idle circuit or with the fumes. would definitely suck if you had to take apart the carb again to clean it out.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on September 17, 2015, 07:27:18 AM
Quote from: SixGun on September 16, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
Picked up some starting fluid. It starts nearly every time.  So I start playing with the timing.  Counter clockwise it can almost start on its own but stalls out in gear when I try to give it gas. Clockwise sounds a lot stronger but will not start on its own.  Played with it so much that I can't find my baseline. Chalk up another depressing day.

unless you are using a timing light you are shooting in the dark sir  :017:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on September 17, 2015, 11:55:52 AM
you need to pull the top off the carb after you know the float bowls should be full and check to see that the bowls are full.... if the fuel level in the carb is too low it will cause your problem.... maybe sticking float valves ... maybe float level needs adjusting.... you can easily pull the top off the carb with it still on the motor.. just dont lose the tiny clips   :tongue3:


sometimes old carbs are just not worth the trouble if all of the above checks out. I have fought many battles with shitty edelbrock/carter weber style 4 barrels... some of those battles were victorious, others were more an exercise in wasting a lot of time and money.

Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 19, 2015, 05:56:23 PM
Well Ryan stopped by and picked up Carter for his Dr.'s appointment.
Off to see the Dodge Whisperer.

With a little tweaking, Carter even loaded up under his own power.

I left a magazine on the passenger seat for you guys at the shop. Make sure Larry gets a look see also.

Thanks Guys!!
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 19, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
The master at work  :You_Rock_Emoticon:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 19, 2015, 11:32:30 PM
so does that mean it should be ready to drive soon?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on September 19, 2015, 11:35:08 PM
it can drive now, but it needs some more tlc... Noah is not done yet and then once he is the brakes and alignment need looking into.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on September 19, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
well it is a lot easier to get to an alignment shop if the thing is at least moving under its own power. brakes are usually not too bad to check/repair on the 2wd's.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on September 20, 2015, 11:35:24 AM
Less than 24 hours. That's just some kinda amazing. :great:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: bullboy0852 on October 13, 2015, 03:52:57 PM
So what was the issue?

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Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 13, 2015, 05:40:51 PM
Vacuum leaks, carb float set too low, timing and egr.

Still some driveability issues that I need to contend with. Still a work in progress.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: bullboy0852 on October 13, 2015, 06:18:00 PM
Alright cool, things to check on mine, similar issues but drivable. Haven't reset the timing since the cam and timing swap so might've had some initial stretch or settling. Vaccum is around 30 and I don't have egr. We'll see what it does, don't know how long til I swap engines.

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Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 21, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Spent a couple of days at Troxell Automotive working on my buddy Carter. Many thanks for the help and hospitality of Noah and his faithful assistant Kato...err.. Eric. :laughing7:

We got the front alignment adjusted to eliminate a howl going down the road. Apparently the passenger side was pointed in. Also had a hard start issue.  Pulled top of carb and adjusted float level. Noah noticed that the float level was not high enough to feed into the accelerator pump through the slot.  Obvious to the trained eye of the Mopar Master Noah. For a young man, this guy has experience beyond his years. On his first Doctors visit with Carter he also noticed a bubble on the tread of the drivers side tire.  You really had to be be looking at it but it was obvious once pointed out.  They had a lot of tread and in pretty good shape but again, thanks to the trained eye of the Jedi, a disaster was averted. On our test drive in the country, we noticed that the kickdown was not working.  Some tweaks and wa-la.  A fluid check revealed the power steering pump was dry. I added a big cooler for the PS pump so the driving must have finally filled the cooler. Big bottle of fluid to solve that issue. A loose shift linkage bracket from the tranny install fixed.
Having a lift really gives you a birds eye view so to speak.

Oil changed for thicker oil to try and seal rings better.  A lot of blow by on this old motor.  OK , so this truck has some serious highway gear, 2.94 I believe. Why just put a lower gear? Upgrade to 9-1/4 was in the cards with 3.55's. Remember, the A999 tranny was swapped to a rebuilt A727 a little while back. Now, Noah is a very busy man at the shop but he took the time to walk me through a rebuild of the 9-1/4. He has done a couple of D60 rebuilds but this is his first 9-1/4.  I've been dragging this heavy sumbitch in the bed of the Ram for awhile now hoping he would have some free time on one of my visits. Now free time was not necessarily in the cards but he made time for "training" as he called it.  A total overhaul with new bearings and seals.  Also a crush sleeve eliminator was installed. Noah had most of the tools already purchased for his new foray into the world of axles. However a specialty tool was built for the side adjusters in lieu of a spanner wrench. Though fairly simple to tear down and put back together, the labor for cleanup and setup was where the money is. Also, there is a slew of very expensive tools to do this job. Parts wise, I'm in a good 4 bills and that's not including the brakes. They look in fair shape for its age but old. Next trip I hope. I've got some shopping to do.

Speaking of brakes, our test drive also pointed out a dragging brake smell. Calipers dragging. A parts list was made for some stopping power. One of Noah's concerns was a vacuum leak from what he felt was a leaky vacuum booster. It's the pancake style single diaphragm. I brought a spare used pancake booster for the 76 RC but turns out it was a 4 bolt instead of the needed 2 bolt. Well, following the rule of dont just replace but upgrade when buying new, we looked at getting a dual diaphragm booster.  After trying to get one locally, it was determined that it was gonna have to be ordered.

A lot accomplished in 2 days. We even had time to plan a future rebirth of the Ram possibly as a 4x.  Ahh..to be continued at a later date.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on October 21, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
sounds like a lot of work. also i really don't know what shape my 81's 318 was in when i got it but after running diesel 15w40 in it for the last 6000 or so miles it seemed to help things seal up a bit since my last compression test. all cylinders are a consistent 170-180 psi with little to no change when doing a wet test. it would be about a 10-20psi increase accross all cylinders since last test. i have been meaning to pull the valve covers and see if things are any cleaner since the last time i was in there
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 21, 2015, 12:07:56 PM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on October 21, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
sounds like a lot of work. also i really don't know what shape my 81's 318 was in when i got it but after running diesel 15w40 in it for the last 6000 or so miles it seemed to help things seal up a bit since my last compression test. all cylinders are a consistent 170-180 psi with little to no change when doing a wet test. it would be about a 10-20psi increase accross all cylinders since last test. i have been meaning to pull the valve covers and see if things are any cleaner since the last time i was in there

Thanks Mat, I'll have to keep that in mind.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on October 21, 2015, 06:45:10 PM
no problem. i am pretty sure i have read of a lot of people running the shell 15w40 diesel oil in there gas engine and it keeping the engine as clean as a fresh built engine. it sure hasn't hurt anything.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: ProjectPW on October 22, 2015, 08:07:43 AM
Quote from: crazzywolfie on October 21, 2015, 11:23:17 AM
sounds like a lot of work. also i really don't know what shape my 81's 318 was in when i got it but after running diesel 15w40 in it for the last 6000 or so miles it seemed to help things seal up a bit since my last compression test. all cylinders are a consistent 170-180 psi with little to no change when doing a wet test. it would be about a 10-20psi increase accross all cylinders since last test. i have been meaning to pull the valve covers and see if things are any cleaner since the last time i was in there

Unfortunately Carter is only around 125 PSI compression with the engine hot... It may improve after a few miles  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on October 22, 2015, 10:00:11 AM
but wasn't it also rebuilt kind of? i wouldn't expect it to have perfect compression until it actually starts having a few miles put on it and to seal things up.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on October 22, 2015, 10:43:56 AM
After reflection and talking with Ernest, the heads were not removed to expedite the build. It was a running motor that didn't smoke. We had planned on more but after finding the block cracked that put a damper on our time frame having to find, pick up and tear down another motor. I also remember having to chase down quite a few parts that College Station didn't carry local. We were surprised that 318 parts were so hard to find. Being a weekend made it worse. I still have the head gaskets and valve stem seals in my doggy bag from that long weekend. Ernest is very meticulous which is time consuming in its own right. Cleaning parts was time consuming as well. It was a marathon no doubt with early days and long nights. Very frustrating going into the last night and being attacked by mosquitoes.  Ahh the good times Lol.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on October 23, 2015, 12:25:22 PM
Ok. Ya I might have been mixing up the engines. It has been a while. Well hopefully you get carter street legal and running good soon so that you can test that engine out good
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 21, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
So about a month ago, I took a couple of tires and rims off and set Carter on jack stands.  Until we get all the bugs ironed out, ole Carter has been staying out at Noah's Dodge ranch.  Well a few weeks ago, the big rainstorms hit the town of Wimberly again.  Mr. Noah was kind enough to text me that Carter was in a sink hole.  ???

Well, he was joshing a bit but the jack stands did sink completely into the soft ground.  In fact, the rotors were slightly in the mud and the cross member was all that kept it from going full groundhog.  Funny thing is that the last conversation we had was whether or not to put some wood or rocks under the jack stands. Hind sight is 20/20.

So today I  had a few hours so I took a road trip out there and put some new shoes on Carter.  In this case, floaties in case he decides to play in the rain again. I wanted to give him a little rake so I put some 265/75/15's in back and moved the 235/75/15's up front.

The old tires are now rollers for the 76 RC. Here's a couple of pics. The front actually sank more since that pic was taken. That green thing is the jack stand.  :laughing7:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on November 21, 2015, 09:10:02 PM
that sucks that that happened but it is looking good now :13: i might have to try remembering that tire size for the future if i get another 2wd ramcharger or maybe even for my truck. i like how well they fill the wheel well and it will most likely look a bit nicer once them front springs have settled a bit.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 23, 2016, 04:53:56 PM
Spent a couple days at Troxell Automotive to work on Mr Carter. Made a big dent in the to-do list. So first,  I was able to get a float setting that will allow Carter to start every time under his own power. Put new brakes on all four corners. Also went ahead and did the axle swap to a 9-1/4 with 3.55 gearing.  This was the one that Ryan donated to the Carter foundation and Noah rebuilt.  Definitely improved the driveability. Mucho thank yous to Noah, Eric and Lance for their assistance with advice, parts and tools. Most of all for their hospitality. It was pretty darn cold most of the time and Eric's coffee was a welcome start in the morning.

Friday night we did a night run through the woods in Lances Keystone. Noah has set up a proving grounds course through the Troxell forest. Then it was a speed run down the 1/8 Mile driveway track. I must say that Keystone is turning into a very capable monster. I have done this run in Eric's monster also. Both feel very different but are all business.

Had a lot of fun as always. Thanks again guys!   :hello:



Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 26, 2016, 08:38:45 AM
So one of the items left on the to do list is the wiper motor. From what I've been able to gather, the wipers not parking properly is because of the parking switch inside the wiper motor.  I know they sell them but I just wonder if they can be repaired easily.  New ones cost $50-80.  I figure maybe a used one at $25 is an option also. They sell replacement harness plugs if I get a different model. If I go the JY route, other than bolt pattern is there anything I should check for. Since Carter is an 85 model, should a 90's model just bolt in?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on January 26, 2016, 07:06:18 PM
you think someone would probably have a spare or 2 sitting around. i think the motors are pretty compatible between all the 72-93 rams. just the connector changed. all the wires stayed the same. my 81 has the stock wiper motor but has a newer harness. they just made and adapter. it is not pretty but at least they didn't hack the harness to install it and it works.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 27, 2016, 04:40:34 PM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/a6226/how-to-fix-your-windshield-wiper-motors/

Found this article on wiper motors. At the bottom is a section on parking. Might be able to repair it.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on January 27, 2016, 07:41:35 PM
it never hurts to try fixing it first. they are definitely a pain in the but to replace tho so make sure you get it working properly before putting it back on. i think you have to loosen or almost remove the brake booster to get them out.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 27, 2016, 07:51:01 PM
Yeessh......I gotta do what I gotta do.  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on January 27, 2016, 08:04:06 PM
could always try to find a truck that is sitting around and swap with it :laughing7:. i am pretty sure there has got to be lots of trucks sitting around that have wiper motors that don't need the
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: bullboy0852 on January 29, 2016, 05:01:21 AM
Or you could have the one off my 87 I'm parting out

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Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 29, 2016, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: bullboy0852 on January 29, 2016, 05:01:21 AM
Or you could have the one off my 87 I'm parting out

Is it a variable speed?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: bullboy0852 on January 29, 2016, 02:29:58 PM
Yessir

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Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 29, 2016, 02:48:56 PM
Dakota, PM sent
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on January 30, 2016, 04:06:34 PM
i don't think it makes a difference if it has variable speed or not. it is the same motor either way. not like on the 84 and older truck where there is an extra wire on the motors with delay.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 30, 2016, 06:43:59 PM
Hmmm....so the delay/variable switch controls that function.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on January 30, 2016, 07:07:40 PM
well actually i think there is a box under the dash that the switch is hooked to that controls the function but ya. motors should be the same. the looks of them did change a bit between 85 and 93 but they all got the same connector. same wires on the diagrams. when parts shopping at the auto recycle and you see a 85-87ish dodge with delay wipers you may want to see about grabbing the wiper module as a spare. when they go bad they can be hard to find. they look like this and are usually right beside the buzzer under the dash
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on January 30, 2016, 08:04:29 PM
Cool thanks Mat.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 01, 2016, 10:24:05 PM
Took Carter for a ride to the gas station. Started feeling a vibration. Slowed down and BAM a wheel came off.  Looks like lug nuts on this wheel were not torqued down. Bad thing is that the sheet metal behind the wheel folded under. Major body work. Really sucks...
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 02, 2016, 09:56:20 AM
I am glad to not be the only one that has had that issue... sorry you messed your body up.

It did not look too bad, maybe a replacement patch and a little paint and you will be good to go.

Besides the wheel coming off how did the test go?
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on March 02, 2016, 11:20:11 AM
It was smooth starting out. Got up to around 65 at one point. Speedo may not be accurate so dunno for sure.

Landed on the backing plate as the drum flew off. Little brake hardware all over the place.

What a bummer.  Noah told me, "Well...
that's one step forward and two steps back."
:crybaby2:
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: crazzywolfie on March 02, 2016, 03:55:24 PM
that sucks. maybe you can pull it out. i don't think anyone sells patch panels for that. you would almost need to find another ramcharger to cut that off for a patch.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: rjtx667 on March 02, 2016, 09:09:30 PM
sure they do... I had some at one point in time.. ended up selling them to jungle. its the upper parts that you can't patch.
Title: Re: Welcome back Carter
Post by: SixGun on November 24, 2016, 06:50:54 PM
So I was looking for a couple of rollers for the 76 since it had a flat tire.  3 of the 4 original tires have already shit the bed so I wanted to put some "newer" tires to roll around on.  I had a couple that I took off Carter. I replaced them since one was deformed. I hadn't noticed it but Noah did.  I marked it with red paint. When I dug it out this is what I found. It wasn't even in a hot storage shed. It was in the garage. Good thing I wasn't on the road with it.  Good catch Noah!!