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#16
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 16, 2015, 11:36:11 AM
Well do you know where Childress is? Its south on 287... Well I live south of Childress about 45 minutes.
#17
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 14, 2015, 09:56:15 PM
I live 2.5 hours west of witchita falls... 2.5 hours south east of Amarillo.. 2.5hours northeast of lubbock... Look up zip 79248....  I live out in the middle of no where... It's an hour drive to Wal-Mart. Lol... I have wheeled several of my arms with a few of you guys and even toke a 2000 intrepid to a ram jam... And got it stick on a sand bank in camp... Lol... I have got to get this truck finished... It will put my old 97 to shame...
#18
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 14, 2015, 06:35:52 PM
Would be nice to be able to get back to wheelin been several years sense I went to ram jam or a big get together...  Only been wheel in about 5 or 6 times in the last year.
#19
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 14, 2015, 12:13:45 AM
Not much done on this stuff the last few days but I did get the headers in...

So what parts (links or at least specs) would you guys buy with a parts budge of ...

3k
4k
5k
$$$ (ideal parts as if you where spending someone else's money on your own motor...)

Keep in mind this is a daily driver... Going to be lifted and tire of around 35-37" ...must run on pump gas... Will be fuel injected... So custom tune... Automatic (going to build this as well But that will be another deal)...
#20
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 09, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
book ordered and working on downloading to read and print.
#21
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 09, 2015, 01:48:21 PM
do you have a link to  flying ryan?

hughes also offers the custom tunes and all just not sure how custom they will do.

I honestly thing stokers can be done on a budget...  so long as the research is done... for example to me I dont see a need to buy a $4000 stroker kit thats ment for racing when I dont plan on racing  there is a scat stroker kit that $1500 that will work just fine for me. I want to keep stoke compression no need to run anything higher than 91 fuel for me. as is I normally can't get above 91 locally anyway. I don't see a need to use $3000 worth of heads when a ported and polished stock set should be just fine. My goals not 500 HP I honestly dont care that much about the numbers at all I want a strong reliable motor, sure a stock 360 would work but if I'm going to rebuild it anyway why not put in an extra little bit and stroke it? honestly I wouldn't mind not doing the 30 over if 10 over will do but at the same time having a full 408 stroker would be nice.  I guess thats what I mean by a budget stroker.  sure it's going to cost but  no need to over do the budget...

I guess this thread will become more of a documentation thread as I go along as well. hopefully I can start ordering more parts here in the next few weeks.... I'm not sure what order I'll get them in but I'm going to start with more this week.  So far I have a set of shorty headers (more than likely by long tube later) but found a deal on this set of stainless for $120 shipped. then add in the factory service manual at $30 (digital as I have a laser printer so I can print only the pages as I need them)... Then I'm more than likely going to get the book was just linked. 


So on another note... once I get the block out I will more than likely send it off to get all the machine work done pretty quickly... whats the best way to make sure that it stays in good shape until I get the parts in and installed? or would it be better to simply wait until everything is here and machine it and put it together all at once? I know guys that have done true rolller 10K rpm motors and it toke many many years with the machined block sitting there, but I'm looking to have it done no later than new years time frame. built and in the truck.
#22
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 08, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
Well plans have changed... I ended up getting a full truck for 1200 so the 408 does not have to be done in a rush.... and I can do the build the way I feel it really should be.

https://wichitafalls.craigslist.org/cto/5297549158.html

the truck I got is a 99 dodge ram 2wd... 3" body lift and 3" suspension lift with a full set of 315 x 70 x 17 Mickey Thompson mtz tires (I would say about 75% tread left on all 4), seats look good (cloth). body is about 80% perfect only damage I can find is the passenger side  door has a whiskey style dent as does the extended cab door. Now the motor starts and runs great... aftermarket grill.. that has really grown on me... has a spectra dual cold air intake.

so here's the bad... Transmission is toast... dash is pretty much shot.... Looks like some wiring was  chewed up and electrical taped but works fine. passenger side front blinker is broke custom built front tube bumper is welded to the core support and then a piece of diamond plate connects it to the front cross member. and the guy who did the work must have been in a hurry because the top tube is sloped instead of flat. door panels are held on by screws. driver seat power does not work (I'm thinking fuses)

Hope to have the motors swapped in the next two weeks or so. then I'll move on to tearing the 99 down to parts and selling off or trading off things I don't want or need.... Going to start with a minor overhaul of the new motor.. IE plugs wires cap rotor... normal tune up stuff and might change out the sensors and all to stuff off my block... but going to do a compression check first. also going to order headers for it... Might as well start off with the first parts for the new build as well...LOL
#23
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 08, 2015, 09:21:38 AM
I just hate wasting money so I wanted to do the striker rather than a factory rebuild or going with a used motor but both the trucks I found say they both have new motors and bad trans so figure if I get one of them I get a few other parts as well and I can get the third truck I know of and take the parts from 3 and fix the second one up nice and sell it for as much r more than I have into the other two I didn't need so it would be pretty much a free temp motor while I have time to build up the strocker... Plus I can add things like the programmer and headers along the way before dropping in the stroker making it at least feel more of a budget build... So either way let's keep this thread moving with the build...
#24
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 08, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
Well honestly the price of parts was not so much of the issue and labor was cheap it's figuring out the parts that suck. I will more than likely still build it but it will not be in near the rush that I feel I'm in now. Might take a few months total rather then a few weeks. Lol
#25
Vehicle Help / Re: 99 ram v10 lift questions
November 08, 2015, 09:06:37 AM
I know an old thread but being that I'm an owner of the newer style rams and have lifted several I figure I would post some information for the next person who might have the same sort of question.

For the 94 -2002 trucks might go a little newer but I know 2002 for sure... There are a few magic numbers as far as lift goes...I'll go over lifting the front first.


First number is 3" of suspension lift.. At 3" you have to either have an adjustable track bar or you have to have a relocation bracket. At 3" you will also notice some companies start changing out control arms as well they tend to add around 1/2" in length at 3" lift... Spacers and longer springs are an option.

4" of lift is where things start to get more involved. Much more is required in front in parts like away bar drop brackets, and drop pitman arm, larger track bar drop bracket once again spacers or new springs are options. Most come with both upper and lower control arms but some just new lower control arms using the factory lower control arms as new upper control arms. Break lined will need to be relocated or longer ones purchased at this point.

5" lift is about the same as a 4" lift except you will need new upper and lower control arms and they tend to be 5/8" longer than factory. At this point long arm kits come into play as well. This also tends to be the max side of the spacer kits I have seen.

At 6" you start running into driveshaft length and angle issues....

Factory rear blocks are 4 1/2" talk and have the built in bump stop. Now personally I will not stack blocks. But zero rates and axle relocation springs are another thing.  For the rear no lift is normally needed until you reach the 2 1/2" mark them add a leafs, new springs or bigger blocks are all an option.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the factory off-road trucks are 2 1/2" taller than your standard 4x4 truck of the same year. I would look into relocation or longer break lines around the 3" mark as well. I found that my rear shocks would hit the frame under extreme flex with 5" of lift so you might want to think about relocation them or at least triangulating them at around 4 or 5" of lift.

I can not speak on body lifts in this trucks as I have not done one but a 1 or 2" one would make getting to the distributor and tranny a lot easier.

Now on the ride quality... I have had several size lifts and have ridden in May others manufacturers lifts and this generation ram lifts very good I have never had a single complaint about a harsh ride. And my 5" tuff country lift would put flex most anything.

I have also found that the first piece of rocker panel to really take a beating that you wouldn't think of is right behind the rear tire. I cut it off on mine because I smashed it all the time... I had rock sliders on my 97 after I tore the factory running boards off on the trails.

Tire size... Ok this is where things get odd... I have tried many sizes but I'll only give the basics of what I had and results.... 33 x 11x 16 on factory rim and no lift rubbed on lower control arm at hard right turn but not to the left... No run at all with after market control arms and the 5" lift even jumping the truck. 36 x 12.5 x 15 on 15 x 8 steelies ( what I got them on)  and 5 " lift rubbed on wheel Wells at full flex not bad but did touch. 33 x 12.5 x 15 on 15 x 10 steelies no lift run at Locke turns and hard fast bumps. And stick way out of the wheel Wells....

There's tons more about these trucks I can post of anyone wants. Such as 03 track bar upgrade, steering cross braces...

I have owned 4 97's and a 98,  2000 and an 01.... A lot of you know me from ram jam rcc and all. I'm not scared to beat on my trucks or put them through the paces.  I used to go by saw960 and 4wheelinstud back in the start... Lol

#26
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 08, 2015, 08:22:07 AM
Well... This project might end up on hold as I just located a full 99 ram with a newly rebuilt 360 under the hood, Baja mtz tires and 3" body lift, after market grill and front bumper for 1200 the trans is out in it... Motor only has 8900 miles on it so might be worth the hour drive. And there's another one with a new motor and 6" fabtech lift and new 35" tires for $3500 trans is out on this one as well. So looks like I have options that I hadn't thought about really because ideally I didn't want a used motor but both claim to have new motors with paperwork... And I get other spare parts... Or I could buy another local truck I know of for 500 that was wrecked and has a good motor and trans and put them in the truck I get the motor out of and sell the left overs and make a little extra... Lol dang the options now.
#27
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 08, 2015, 07:36:44 AM
I'm no longer looking at the kit that requires the thicker head gasket. And hard to call at 2am on the weekend. I'm looking at specs ie what's a rv can spec cam?
#29
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 07, 2015, 02:19:21 PM
I had an injecter. Quick right after I got the truck so I got all new ones 82nd like this motor build no reason to go stock.
#30
Vehicle Help / Re: help me build my 408 stroker
November 07, 2015, 02:02:29 PM
Quote from: ProjectPW on November 07, 2015, 01:54:14 PM
Good deal... you may want to discuss what fuel injectors will be needed. The stockers may keep up, but may limit upper rpm performance.

Sent from my SM-G530T using Tapatalk

factory injectors for my motor are 19lb (I believe been a while) I already have 24 lb injectors installed.. been running them for a year. The ones I have are pretty much the same as the purple viper injectors. 

I had already ported and polished out the factory intake and TB. Installed a 180 degree T stat, e3 platinum plugs, 8.8mm wires, brass cap and rotor, 24lb fuel injectors, exhaust is factory size but changed (...no clue what all as I bought it done exhaust wise)