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91 RAMM'D 150

Started by SixGun, September 25, 2012, 07:27:47 pm

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SixGun

This link from the confirmed fixes cheat sheet post sure sounds like my problem.
http://ramchargercentral.com/vehicle-help/continuing-my-battle-with-red-(90'-w-150)-(fixed!!!)/
Could be hall effect or distributor.  However, a distributor from Pick-n-Pull only runs $35 with a $5 core all included.  May just get the warranty on it for a few pesos more if I can return it if it no workie.  Peace of mind at least and helluva lot cheaper than new. I wanted to go get one today but they are still closing early instead of summer hours.  jerks....  :angry5:  Off tomorrow so JY here I come... AGAIN. 

Man I hope this does it.  My lead foot is getting ancy.  Not to mention that I've got 3 major cobwebs growing in the bed of the truck.  Yaaaaaah.... :disgust:
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket

crazzywolfie

rock auto says the 3.9 and 5.2 use the same hall effects sensor. could maybe try swapping the good one from your 3.9 into the 5.2. could also check the hall effects while you have the sensor out.

SixGun

Okay so the more I look into hall effect pickup, the more it sounds like my problem from DodgeForum, RCC, and others.  I try looking for this part on websites but no one seems to carry them.  I find an ignition pickup and there it is.  So I do my searches all over again but they all say to call them for availability.  Yuck, but I do anyway and ordered one from Oreilly to arrive at 8am tomorrow morning.  Yaaaah..... :dance:  It has a lifetime warranty and they have a no hassle return policy.  Good to go.  A little cheaper than the used dizzy and I won't even break a sweat driving to the parts store which is across the street from wife's work.  Here it is:  http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BWD0/ME60/02802.oap?year=1991&make=Dodge&model=D150&vi=1084856&ck=Search_ignition+pickup%21s%21stator_1084856_2382&keyword=ignition+pickup%21s%21stator
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket

crazzywolfie

don't you still have the v6 kicking around? if it was running good the Distributor Ignition Pickup out of it should be fine. only 2 or 3 screws holding it in the distributor.

SixGun

Yep but I keep stripping items off that motor.  With their warranty, if it doesn't work, I just take it back. I've taken electrical items back before and had no problems there.  Also, it was dark already here and this one arrives first thing in the morning anyway.  Hoping to do this without removing the distributor.
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket

crazzywolfie

i just figure swapping Distributor Ignition Pickup with a known good sensor could possibly save you some headache of installing the brand new parts and wondering if it is possibly bad out of the box if it doesn't solve your problem. it is also free to swap parts. i am not sure if you will be able to get at all the screws in the side of the distributor without removing it. it is not too hard to remove anyway. just mark the distributor so you can put it back in the exact same spot.

rjtx667

so???? it's 11 am now.... what's the verdict? lol  :dontknow:
1935 Dodge KC Truck
1991 &1993 RamCharger
2000 RamCharger
2005 Cummins
1935 Dodge KC Truck
1991 &1993 RamCharger
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2005 Cummins

SixGun

Well 8am turned to 9am and the driver finally showed up at Oreilly's.  Gave me a chance to grab some breakfast with the wifey tho. 

Sooooooo, drum roll please,

it's fixed.  LOL  The hall effect was easy to swap out.  I used a short Z shaped screwdriver to loosen the 2 screws and then turn them by hand the rest of the way.  I had to remove the air cleaner and stay hunched over under the hood standing on the frame rails.  Not easy when your 6 feet tall. Back and thighs were hurting.

I took it on a LONG drive to let it warm up.  Slow, fast, steady and it all drives good.  The only thing I noticed is that the 2-3 upshift is early and has overlap that I never noticed before.  Maybe the 4spd auto computer settings are doing this.  It does kickdown but not at freeway speeds. 

Almost forgot to mention that the 2nd injector came in yesterday by US mail.  I didn't check the mail till 9pm so I put them in also this morning.  Fit like a glove and man they really smoothed the idle out dramatically. 

Ahhh... Fedex truck just arrived with ball joints.  Hmmm... day isn't over yet.
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket

rjtx667

glad to hear its back in action. the computer on these don't talk with the tranny unless its over drive or lockup torque converter so that is not the issue. you prob need to adjust the kickdown linkage some more.

does it have a bit more power now? I am also curious how your gas mileage changes
1935 Dodge KC Truck
1991 &1993 RamCharger
2000 RamCharger
2005 Cummins
1935 Dodge KC Truck
1991 &1993 RamCharger
2000 RamCharger
2005 Cummins

SixGun

I do have the lockup converter.  Going down the freeway at 70mph it still pulls 3 grand on the tach.  I guess the computer should be shifting into 4th but it isn't there to shift into.  When I initially was looking up computers for it, 3spd auto vs 4 spd auto were different PN's.  When I pull out from a stop it shifts into 2nd and almost immediately rolls into 3rd.  I had adjusted the bands before and I believe it is the same for V6 vs V8. 

Picks up speed real good but is still a barn door going against the wind.  Smooth acceleration.  Haven't done any thing crazy yet.  At a stop, I just tap it and it jumps.
Hey that V6 wasn't a slouch but the V8 sounds good - real good.  Duals would be cool but I'm content for now at least. 

I just went and had the exhaust welded up a little while ago but I still need to fab something for the air tube hole in the exh manifold.  Kinda noisy till I get up to about 25-30mph then it mellows out.  I put a bolt with washers and a nut to plug it but it still is noisy on that side.  Luckily the magnum manifolds only have one side to plug.  I picked up small steel freeze plugs at Advance before to plug the V6 but the guy said they don't carry them that small anymore.  Hmmm...  I checked at few places and same thing.  The guy at Oreilly's even checked the Dorman website for me with no luck.  It's a 5/8" hole.

As far as gas mileage goes, I still need to fix the odometer plastic gears.
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket

crazzywolfie

glad you got it running good. i think the shift early is also related to how you have the kick down adjusted.

SixGun

Ahhhh... now that good sir could stand to be adjusted.  Thanks   :great:
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket
"You may all go to Hell and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crocket

ernestgonzales78@gmail.com

awesome!! I finally put my furd in the carport and tore it down. hope to stay on top of it now.  :13:
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rjtx667

Quote from: SixGun on March 23, 2013, 02:33:26 pm
I do have the lockup converter.  Going down the freeway at 70mph it still pulls 3 grand on the tach.  I guess the computer should be shifting into 4th but it isn't there to shift into.  When I initially was looking up computers for it, 3spd auto vs 4 spd auto were different PN's.  When I pull out from a stop it shifts into 2nd and almost immediately rolls into 3rd.  I had adjusted the bands before and I believe it is the same for V6 vs V8. 

Picks up speed real good but is still a barn door going against the wind.  Smooth acceleration.  Haven't done any thing crazy yet.  At a stop, I just tap it and it jumps.
Hey that V6 wasn't a slouch but the V8 sounds good - real good.  Duals would be cool but I'm content for now at least. 

I just went and had the exhaust welded up a little while ago but I still need to fab something for the air tube hole in the exh manifold.  Kinda noisy till I get up to about 25-30mph then it mellows out.  I put a bolt with washers and a nut to plug it but it still is noisy on that side.  Luckily the magnum manifolds only have one side to plug.  I picked up small steel freeze plugs at Advance before to plug the V6 but the guy said they don't carry them that small anymore.  Hmmm...  I checked at few places and same thing.  The guy at Oreilly's even checked the Dorman website for me with no luck.  It's a 5/8" hole.

As far as gas mileage goes, I still need to fix the odometer plastic gears.



I am not sure if the computer can/ will hit the lockup converter before OD. You may have to hard wire a manual switch for that. Might be worth checking in the FSM.

The Red Brick may or may not be able to let you force it, but it should be able to tell you if its trying to engage it.

adjust the kickdown per the FSM, I don't have the guide for that as the magnums have cables.


http://www.odometergears.com/products/Chrysler-Dodge/All+except+Monaco/125

if I recall, you need 1 of each. Pretty easy stuff to do. Get the gears and we can do it in April if you want help.  :13:

Also you said it was turning 3k @ 70? Is that what it used to turn? What size tires/ gears you doing that with? Might be worth your next project to find a 518... that OD can save a lot of gas when it drops it down to 2k or so. The OD is a ratio of .69 vs a 3rd of prob 1.0x or somewhere close to that.
1935 Dodge KC Truck
1991 &1993 RamCharger
2000 RamCharger
2005 Cummins
1935 Dodge KC Truck
1991 &1993 RamCharger
2000 RamCharger
2005 Cummins

crazzywolfie

+1 on the overdrive transmission. you should be able to pick up 2-4mpg if you do lots of highway driving. i know i have seen as high as 18mpg with my 93 ramcharger. i know for every 1mpg you gain you save at least $5.